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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2025, 02:06:42 PM »
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FWIW, Greg Doudna, who is at least a serious scholar and not a complete JFKA loon, has a scenario where the wallet at the Tippit scene was Callaway's: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/26874-the-wallet-at-the-tippit-scene-a-simpler-solution/.

In the second post on that thread, Bill Simpich absolutely reams Barrett as "the worst sort of l-i-a-r."

I didn't review the entire long thread - Bill Brown is there as well - but my guess would be that every theory about the wallet is in there somewhere.

And on it goes, and always will.

In this video of the wallet at the Tippit crime scene, it appears the cop with the wallet is randomly waving his gun and without a care even has it aimed close to the hand of the detective who is pointing something out within the wallet and then when the cop hands over the wallet, he quickly points the gun away and more towards himself.
The most likely scenario imo is that the wallet was being looked at legitimately and also as a bit of a show for the TV camera and thus the cop is a bit flippant with the direction of his gun but when the civilian is given his wallet back, the cop responds correctly by diverting the aim of the gun and away from the direction of this civilian.



BTW, I posted this theory on the old Forum and Gary Mack who became a wise wizard, sent me a PM endorsing my theory.

JohnM


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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
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Online Michael Capasse

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2025, 02:12:36 PM »
In this video of the wallet at the Tippit crime scene, it appears the cop with the wallet is randomly waving his gun and without a care even has it aimed close to the hand of the detective who is pointing something out within the wallet and then when the cop hands over the wallet, he quickly points the gun away and more towards himself.
The most likely scenario imo is that the wallet was being looked at legitimately and also as a bit of a show for the TV camera and thus the cop is a bit flippant with the direction of his gun but when the civilian is given his wallet back, the cop responds correctly by diverting the aim of the gun and away from the direction of this civilian.



BTW, I posted this theory on the old Forum and Gary Mack who became a wise wizard, sent me a PM endorsing my theory.

JohnM

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2025, 02:14:52 PM »
Below is a screen shot from a news report aired on WFAA-TV Dallas on the 50th anniversary.
It contains the only documented affirmation that a wallet was found at the Tippit scene.
The wallet is described as "Oswald's", was "recovered" by the officer first to arrive on the scene.
This documented framed evidence was given by the officers to FBI Agent Bob Barrett when he retired.



"First on the scene recovered Oswald's wallet there too."
" K H Croy Sgt. Kenneth Croy DPD Reservve #86"(?)
"SA XXXXXXX Bookhout Dallas FBI"
« Last Edit: April 24, 2025, 02:16:20 PM by Michael Capasse »

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2025, 02:15:48 PM »
Last one:

Since I will be writing a law review article on the wallet, I would like any debate on this to start at the 30,000-foot level:

1. With multiple eyewitnesses, the police would have planted an Oswald wallet at the Tippit scene because ____________________.

2. The police would have had an Oswald wallet prepared in advance, for use at the Tippit scene within minutes of the murder, because _________________________.

3. The police would have planted Alek Hidell identification in the prepared wallet because ____________________________.

4. Despite items 1-3, the police failed to assemble a clean series of reports about the wallet being found at the scene because ________________________.

5. If the police did not actually plant an Oswald wallet at the Tippit scene but merely said they found one there, they did this because _______________________ and the answer to item 4 is that _________________________.

Probably there are excellent CT-oriented answers to such questions, which Martin will supply and expose me, Ferris Rookstool IV, as a hopeless dolt who probably drops his wallet in the parking lot every time he goes to Walmart.

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2025, 02:18:18 PM »
Last one:

Since I will be writing a law review article on the wallet, I would like any debate on this to start at the 30,000-foot level:

1. With multiple eyewitnesses, the police would have planted an Oswald wallet at the Tippit scene because ____________________.

2. The police would have had an Oswald wallet prepared in advance, for use at the Tippit scene within minutes of the murder, because _________________________.

3. The police would have planted Alek Hidell identification in the prepared wallet because ____________________________.

4. Despite items 1-3, the police failed to assemble a clean series of reports about the wallet being found at the scene because ________________________.

5. If the police did not actually plant an Oswald wallet at the Tippit scene but merely said they found one there, they did this because _______________________ and the answer to item 4 is that _________________________.

Probably there are excellent CT-oriented answers to such questions, which Martin will supply and expose me, Ferris Rookstool IV, as a hopeless dolt who probably drops his wallet in the parking lot every time he goes to Walmart.

Useless garbage

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2025, 02:29:31 PM »
Useless garbage

It is, isn't it? Are we to interpret your response as "Thinking logically is beneath me" or "I have no answers"?

Please, feel free to ignore my garbage. Just take us through (1) how your scenario, whatever it is, actually would have worked and (2) how it would have made any sense in the context of the Tippit murder and the JFKA as a whole. These should be basic concerns before we start agonizing over the buttons and flaps on the wallets, no? If you can't take us through (1) and (2), I'm going to start having concerns about this whole CT thing maybe just being, well, kind of ad hoc goofiness.

Oh, Ferris Rookstool III was a hoot. He was one of three claimants to having possession of the sniper's window and indeed some 40 or 50 TSBD windows!

"Now a third Kennedy-era collector has come forward to claim possession.

Ferris Rookstool, a former FBI employee who lives in Dallas, says he hired a crew to salvage all the windows a few years ago, after he learned that Dallas County was planning to replace the panes.

He said he has the 40 to 50 windows stored in a warehouse but doesn’t know which one is the window."





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Re:Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2025, 02:41:06 PM »
Below is a screen shot from a news report aired on WFAA-TV Dallas on the 50th anniversary.
It contains the only documented affirmation that a wallet was found at the Tippit scene.
The wallet is described as "Oswald's", was "recovered" by the officer first to arrive on the scene.
This documented framed evidence was given by the officers to FBI Agent Bob Barrett when he retired.



"First on the scene recovered Oswald's wallet there too."
" K H Croy Sgt. Kenneth Croy DPD Reservve #86"(?)
"SA XXXXXXX Bookhout Dallas FBI"


Thanks again Michael, Oswald's wallet the Tippit murder scene can only mean Oswald dropped it as he was proving his identity to Tippit, therefore Oswald was there and this is just another piece of the mountain of evidence linking Oswald to this crime!!  Thumb1: Thumb1: Thumb1:

JohnM
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Re: TWO WALLETS? NOPE.
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2025, 02:55:37 PM »
Thanks again Michael, Oswald's wallet the Tippit murder scene can only mean Oswald dropped it as he was proving his identity to Tippit, therefore Oswald was there and this is just another piece of the mountain of evidence linking Oswald to this crime!!  Thumb1: Thumb1: Thumb1:

JohnM
I believe what he did is called "Ineffective Assistance of Counsel."

On the other hand, he does get any Oswald conviction overturned. Which is really what they are trying to do anyway. It's Oswald as Alfred Dreyfus sort of thinking.

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Re: TWO WALLETS? NOPE.
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2025, 02:55:37 PM »