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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2025, 03:19:19 AM »
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What also doesn't make sense is that none of the reports from 11/22/63 mentioned the Hidell ID being in the contents of Oswald's wallet. As someone noted earlier on this topic, officer Bentley didn't mention the Hiddell ID when he went on TV that day and described the contents of Oswald's wallet. The whole thing is peculiar.

The film footage and photo from the Tippit crime scene indirectly corroborates the FBI agent's (Barrett?) claim about Oswald's wallet being found before he was arrested (assuming the wallet in the film footage wasn't Tippit's).

What explains the discrepancy? I don't know.


There's two ways of looking at the Hidell issue;

1) The Occam's razor approach, Oswald ordered a mail order rifle with the alias Alek Hidell and took it to work and killed the President.

Or

2) The CT approach, where everything and anything needs to be possible, or plain and simply any conspiracy just won't work.

The following compiled list reflects the effort for just a tiny fraction of a planned conspiracy, the faking of Oswald's Hidell alias.

The Hidell ID was manufactured by conspirators
The Hidell ID was planted by the Police
The Hidell ID negatives were manufactured by conspirators
The Hidell ID negatives were planted by conspirators in the Paine residence
The Hidell name was inserted by conspirators into the New Orleans post box application records.
The Hidell name was connected To Oswald's New Orleans Chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee by conspirators.
The Hidell name was used as The "Chapter President" of Oswald's made up Cuba Committee by conspirators.
The Hidell name was forged by conspirators onto Oswald's "Fair Play for Cuba" leaflets
The Hidell name was written on membership cards by conspirators other than Marina, who must have lied.
The Hidell name was a play on "Fidel" according to Marina who must have lied
The Hidell name was forged onto the Klein's coupon
The Hidell Kleins coupon addressed to Oswald was forged onto the Klein's microfilm
The Hidell name was forged onto the Kleins envelope
The Hidell Kleins Envelope addressed to Oswald was forged onto the Kleins microfilm
The Hidell name on on the Kleins Coupon found by Waldman on the night following the assassination was forgotten?
The Hidell rifle was never sent to Oswald's PO box
The Hidell newly manufactured microfilm was substituted at some point with Kleins business records microfilm.
The Hidell ID was admitted by Oswald or Police lied
The Hidell ID was admitted by Oswald or a Postal official lied
The Hidell ID was asked of Oswald or an FBI agent lied
The Hidell name was forged onto Oswald Job applications as a reference
The Hidell rifle was photographed with Oswald by either forgery or trickery
The Hidell rifle was planted on the 6th floor of Oswald's work by conspirators
The Hidell revolver coupon was forged by conspirators
The Hidell name was forged onto the Seaport-Traders paperwork
The Hidell revolver was lied about by the Police
The Hidell revolver was substituted by Police
And on and on it goes!

JohnM


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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2025, 03:43:00 PM »
There's two ways of looking at the Hidell issue;

1) The Occam's razor approach, Oswald ordered a mail order rifle with the alias Alek Hidell and took it to work and killed the President.

Or

2) The CT approach, where everything and anything needs to be possible, or plain and simply any conspiracy just won't work.

The following compiled list reflects the effort for just a tiny fraction of a planned conspiracy, the faking of Oswald's Hidell alias.

The Hidell ID was manufactured by conspirators
The Hidell ID was planted by the Police
The Hidell ID negatives were manufactured by conspirators
The Hidell ID negatives were planted by conspirators in the Paine residence
The Hidell name was inserted by conspirators into the New Orleans post box application records.
The Hidell name was connected To Oswald's New Orleans Chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee by conspirators.
The Hidell name was used as The "Chapter President" of Oswald's made up Cuba Committee by conspirators.
The Hidell name was forged by conspirators onto Oswald's "Fair Play for Cuba" leaflets
The Hidell name was written on membership cards by conspirators other than Marina, who must have lied.
The Hidell name was a play on "Fidel" according to Marina who must have lied
The Hidell name was forged onto the Klein's coupon
The Hidell Kleins coupon addressed to Oswald was forged onto the Klein's microfilm
The Hidell name was forged onto the Kleins envelope
The Hidell Kleins Envelope addressed to Oswald was forged onto the Kleins microfilm
The Hidell name on on the Kleins Coupon found by Waldman on the night following the assassination was forgotten?
The Hidell rifle was never sent to Oswald's PO box
The Hidell newly manufactured microfilm was substituted at some point with Kleins business records microfilm.
The Hidell ID was admitted by Oswald or Police lied
The Hidell ID was admitted by Oswald or a Postal official lied
The Hidell ID was asked of Oswald or an FBI agent lied
The Hidell name was forged onto Oswald Job applications as a reference
The Hidell rifle was photographed with Oswald by either forgery or trickery
The Hidell rifle was planted on the 6th floor of Oswald's work by conspirators
The Hidell revolver coupon was forged by conspirators
The Hidell name was forged onto the Seaport-Traders paperwork
The Hidell revolver was lied about by the Police
The Hidell revolver was substituted by Police
And on and on it goes!

JohnM

Just because you make up a list of things you believe must have happened doesn't mean they actually did happen.

What you believe conspirators must have done is nothing more than worthless speculation, just like your "Occam's razor approach" is in reality nothing more than a massive jump to a conclusion based on assumptions.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2025, 11:09:53 PM »
Just because you make up a list of things you believe must have happened doesn't mean they actually did happen.

What you believe conspirators must have done is nothing more than worthless speculation, just like your "Occam's razor approach" is in reality nothing more than a massive jump to a conclusion based on assumptions.

Weedyman,

How and why do you figure the bad guys created the Hidell persona?

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2025, 11:36:23 PM »
OK, this is totally irrelevant, but it is pretty wild:

Perhaps you already know this, but in 1997 a writer bought the grave plot next to Oswald’s at the Shannon Rose Hill Cemetery in Ft. Worth and installed a joke marker with his pen name, “Nick Beef.”



More relevant is that someone else bought a plot a dozen paces from Oswald and installed a marker that simply says “Hidell.”



In 2019, a newspaper reporter brought the significance of Hidell to the cemetery management, which then removed the marker. https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/other-voices/article228503184.html.

Yet another of my significant contributions to JFKA research. You’re welcome. (If you're thinking about a marker that says "Harvey and Lee," I'm way ahead of you. It's already been ordered.)
« Last Edit: April 25, 2025, 11:51:48 PM by Lance Payette »

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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2025, 11:36:23 PM »