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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #560 on: September 13, 2018, 06:37:23 PM »
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You've just misrepresented the whole point of the invisible gorilla tests. People were distracted by concentrating on something else. Maybe they should have a car driving through the room and watch half the people get run over. Would that sink in, concept-wise, professor... would it take that for you to get the concept?

It's not that I don't "get" the concept -- it's that the concept doesn't apply.  What were the law enforcement officers who were examining the crime scene "distracted" by?  Were the deputies playing basketball in the SN while a 38 x 8 inch bag waltzed through in a gorilla costume?

And I guess you forgot all about how I supposedly insulted you by pointing this out.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #561 on: September 13, 2018, 06:48:47 PM »
She didn't say she saw the man duck into the Theater. She said she saw him duck into the recessed area in front of the box office and doors. Then she turned to see something going on to the West, which is when the guy went through the door that was now behind her. Until Brewer brought her attention to the guy, he was just a pedestrian to her.

This doesn't wash.  She notices him enough to see a "panicked look on his face" and to think he's "running from the police" (even though he wasn't running), and then decides to just turn around and look the other way?  Then Brewer immediately comes up to her and asks about the man and she doesn't know what man or whether or not he bought a ticket?  I think she just didn't want to admit that she supposedly let a guy sneak by her without noticing him at all.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #562 on: September 13, 2018, 06:58:03 PM »


A troll is someone who disrupts and deflects conversations with insulting or provocative posts with the goal of stirring people up and then getting his jollies watching people react.

That would be Howard.

I talk about the case and the evidence.  Howard talks about other people on the forum.  I don't personally attack people, call them names, or make fun of their physical appearance -- I call out bad behavior.  All Howard does is personally attack people and he has had multiple posts edited or deleted and has been suspended from the forum multiple times as a result.  What Howard does is indefensible, and yet you defend him.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #562 on: September 13, 2018, 06:58:03 PM »


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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #563 on: September 13, 2018, 07:14:21 PM »
It's not that I don't "get" the concept -- it's that the concept doesn't apply.  What were the law enforcement officers who were examining the crime scene "distracted" by?  Were the deputies playing basketball in the SN while a 38 x 8 inch bag waltzed through in a gorilla costume?

And I guess you forgot all about how I supposedly insulted you by pointing this out.

'And I guess you forgot all about how I supposedly insulted you by pointing this out.'
>>> Keep guessing. You're once again hurling insults by childishly mocking the 'invisible gorilla' findings regarding IB science 

The investigation re some deputies noticed a large bag/some didn't fits the model of the invisible gorilla experiments (which spawned IB science). Pick up a book and find the role 'state-of-mind' can play in distracting some oobservers.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2018, 07:22:31 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #564 on: September 13, 2018, 07:24:57 PM »
'And I guess you forgot all about how I supposedly insulted you by pointing this out.'
>>> Keep guessing. You're once again hurling insults by childishly mocking the 'invisible gorilla' findings regarding IB science 

The investigation re some deputies noticed a large bag/some didn't fits the model of the invisible gorilla experiments (which spawned IB science). Pick up a book and find the role state-of-mind can play in distracting some oobservers.

Please point out where I insulted you.

You're ignoring an important detail.  The ones who noticed the bag were the ones who were in the SN later, and the ones who didn't see a bag there were the ones who were in the SN when it was first discovered.

But please continue.  What "state of mind" do you propose would cause crime scene investigators not to notice a large object out in the open in the middle of a crime scene?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #565 on: September 13, 2018, 08:13:13 PM »

No, it's your behavior that makes you cowardly.  You sit there behind your anonymous computer screen and sling abusive juvenile insults from the safety of your mom's basement and derail any productive conversation about the case because that's what trolls do.

You're way too easy, Jimbo. :D ;D

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #566 on: September 13, 2018, 08:19:00 PM »
You're way too easy, Jimbo. :D ;D

Notice that the troll doesn't dispute any of these things...

Bullies count on the ability to whine when their behavior is called out.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #567 on: September 13, 2018, 08:21:18 PM »


Please point out where I insulted you.
>>> Don't worry, I'm used to it

What "state of mind" do you propose would cause crime scene investigators not to notice a large object out in the open in the middle of a crime scene?
>>> This has been covered, both in other threads regarding the gun bag, and IB science.

You're ignoring an important detail.  The ones who noticed the bag were the ones who were in the SN later, and the ones who didn't see a bag there were the ones who were in the SN when it was first discovered.


The Long Brown Bag
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bag.htm

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It might seem suspicious that six police officers did not see the bag, until we look at the details of their testimony. None of the six could reasonably have been expected to see it. (1)

1.  Conspiracy theorists claim that these six officers show the bag was not in the depository and that the bag was forged. A little research into why these officers never saw the bag leads to a different conclusion. One such officer is Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney, and while he is correctly credited with finding the sniper's nest, he is wrongly assumed to have searched for anything else in the depository. When he found the sniper's nest, he simply called to Lieutenant Day and made sure no one touched anything until Day arrived. When Day did arrive, Mooney stayed in the Depository for only 15-20 minutes longer, but the bag was not discovered until sometime later. He himself states that he did not look for it (3H287-9). Mooney, like most of the officers, was only concerned with finding the weapon and not other evidence at the time.

Officer J. B. Hicks was also questioned. He testified that he had not seen the sack, but he also testified he had not arrived at the depository until 3 pm while the long bag had been photographed leaving at 2:19 (7H287-9).
Captain J. W. Fritz also stated that he did not see the bag but that the bag was found later when he was not there,
Sergeant Gerald Hill states he "left the Book Depository prior to the finding of the gun (7H65)."
Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig left immediately after the rifle was found and photographed (6H268-70).
Detective Elmer L. Boyd did not see the bag because he left once he heard about the shooting of Officer J.D. Tippit (7H120-2). The rifle bag was not found until after the shooting of Tippit which Boyd and several officers left to help investigate.
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #567 on: September 13, 2018, 08:21:18 PM »