Why did Oswald go to the movies?

[John Iacoletti]

Oh, and did I mention that Brewer actually saw That Man in the theater when they turned the lights up?

I know Brewer thought that the guy he saw 50 yards away down by the furniture store from behind was the same guy who was standing is his vestibule was the same guy he pointed out in the theater.  But that doesn't make it true.

To get from that collection of statements to "she said she wasn't sure whether he did or not," you have to pretend most of them don't exist, then take the last remaining one and strip the negative connotation completely out of it. I'm sure that was all just an accident.

No accident at all.

Brewer, John Gibson, and George Applin all saw a pistol in Oswald's hand during the melee with the cops. How did it get there if he didn't draw it himself? I mean, did a feral revolver that lived in the alley charge into the theater through the open back door then lunge at McDonald's throat before Oswald bravely saved the day by grabbing the rabies-crazed firearm to protect McDonald from it's venomous bite?

Are arguments by sarcasm in the LN playbook?  As for Applin:

Mr. BALL - Who pulled the pistol?
Mr. APPLIN - I guess it was Oswald, because--for one reason, that he had on a short sleeve shirt, and I seen a man's arm that was connected to the gun.

Was Oswald wearing a short-sleeved shirt?

He entered a theater without buying a ticket and sat down in the auditorium. That would most likely constitute criminal trespass.

Great, what's your evidence that Oswald entered a theater without buying a ticket?

And the cops didn't even need a warrant or probable cause to stop and frisk you. Remember the NYPD's "stop and frisk" program?

Here's some background from people with an actual legal background:
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/when-can-the-police-stop-and-frisk-you-on-the-street

Cool, now ask your "people with an actual legal background" when the Supreme Court case authorizing "stop and frisk" was decided.

[John Mytton]

I know Brewer thought that the guy he saw 50 yards away down by the furniture store from behind was the same guy who was standing is his vestibule was the same guy he pointed out in the theater.  But that doesn't make it true.

What a bizarre argument, Brewer saw Oswald enter the theater and Oswald was in the theater, we even see Oswald leaving the theater.



JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

Well, he starts out arguing something like a creationist playing the old transitional-forms angle:

That is, Creationist looks at the fossil record, and says,"hey, there's a gap between species B and species R. Evolution can't be right, because there should be a transition form between the two."

Actually, it's the "Oswald-Did-It"-ites who are like the Creationists.  They believe it because their book says so, and because an authority figure said so.

[John Iacoletti]

It makes sense for citizens to remain behind locked doors when a manhunt is underway.

Except how did they know a "manhunt was underway"?

[Walt Cakebread]

First off, I'm not asking this to provoke a fight. I'm just curious as to what some think about Oswald going to the movies, after the President was shot at, from the building he worked in. Some of the TSBD employees left after the shooting, but he was the only one not to return. He went home got his revolver and then went to the movies. Just seems like an odd thing to do, after something as historical as the president getting shot at, happened in front of where he worked.

First off, I'm not asking this to provoke a fight.


Your intentions may be honorable but You pose a question that only ONE person could answer....Lee Oswald....
 Anybody else who proposes an answer is merely guessing and there are bound to be fights between posters who disagree with another persons theory.

I'm just curious as to what some think about Oswald going to the movies, after the President was shot at, from the building he worked in. Some of the TSBD employees left after the shooting, but he was the only one not to return. He went home got his revolver and then went to the movies. Just seems like an odd thing to do, after something as historical as the president getting shot at, happened in front of where he worked.

He went home got his revolver and then went to the movies.

There are some of us who strongly doubt that Lee went home and got his revolver.....The revolver appeared in the dark theater and was  claimed attributed to Lee as  being his revolver when someone handed it to a Dallas Cop and  said..."Here's his gun"....   I seriously doubt that Lee had that revolver when he entered the theater....


He went home got his revolver and then went to the movies. Just seems like an odd thing to do, after something as historical as the president getting shot at, happened in front of where he worked.[

Yes, I agree It seems like an odd thing to do..... and that's why I don't believe he did that.....  The revolver appeared as if by magic in that theater....

[John Mytton]

Actually, it's the "Oswald-Did-It"-ites who are like the Creationists.  They believe it because their book says so, and because an authority figure said so.

an authority figure said so.

Who?

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

>>> Tricky, differentiating between 'pulling' and 'drawing'

McDonald, quoted in 11/23/63 AP article:

"I saw him going for his gun and I grabbed him around the waist. We struggled and fell around the seats for a few seconds and I got my hand on the butt of his pistol."

Paul Bentley KRLD interview, 11/22/63:

"as he reached for his pistol I grabbed him along with two or three other officers".

That was later embellished by McDonald into "he was drawing it".  McDonald said he grabbed Oswald's hand before the gun ever came out, therefore Oswald did not "pull a gun".

[John Iacoletti]

We've been through your list and it amounts to Markham not understanding a question and Markham understandably being a little distressed because in front of her very eyes she witnesses a man being shot to death. But it still doesn't change her positive identification, sorry about that.

I'm sorry that you actually think that biased, unfair lineups prove anything.  All of Henry Wade's overturned cases indicate otherwise.