Buell Wesley Frazier

[Colin Crow]

"Underwear and shirts" sounds like what Oswald would be wearing, a possible singlet, a t shirt, a button shirt, a jacket, pants, undies and socks.

No, packages are a disproportionate matter of interest to CTs.



JohnM

As I said Ruth was clear with her words and if Marina merely washed only the clothes he was wearing when he arrived I believe she would have said that. She would not likely have used "shirts".

Packages were certainly of interest to the WC.....Frazier was quizzed regarding Oswald's habits when leaving and going to the Paine's. Unfortunately we can add that question to the many that were unasked.

[John Mytton]

As I said Ruth was clear with her words and if Marina merely washed only the clothes he was wearing when he arrived I believe she would have said that. She would not likely have used "shirts".

Packages were certainly of interest to the WC.....Frazier was quizzed regarding Oswald's habits when leaving and going to the Paine's. Unfortunately we can add that question to the many that were unasked.

As I said Ruth was clear with her words

And as you have been told, Oswald's t shirt, button shirt and jacket can certainly be defined as multiple and thus satisfies Ruth's observation of "shirts".

and if Marina merely washed only the clothes he was wearing when he arrived I believe she would have said that.

Why?

She would not likely have used "shirts".

Oswald was known to wear multiple "shirts" simultaneously, how about that!.





JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

Walt, I really don't understand why you present this as if it is fact, when it is clearly only what you think happened.

Because that's what Walt does.

Walt's Fabrications

[John Iacoletti]

Maybes are not evidence. Options are not evidence.

You mean like the position that maybe the bag Frazier saw contained a rifle?

[John Mytton]

Wesley said that the bag he saw Oswald carry was not CE 142.

CE 142 was touched by Oswald.
CE 142 was found in the sniper's nest.
Oswald denied carrying a long package, Frazier and Linnie confirm Oswald carried a long package.
Oswald denied carrying curtain rods, Frazier says Oswald told him the bag contained curtain rods.



JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

CE 142 was touched by Oswald.

So?

CE 142 was found in the sniper's nest.

Arguable.  The first 5 or 6 officers on the scene didn't see it, it doesn't show in any crime scene photographs and Day, Studebaker, Johnson, and Montgomery didn't agree on where it was found, who found it, or how it was folded.

Oswald denied carrying a long package, Frazier and Linnie confirm Oswald carried a long package.

How does that prove that CE 142 was the bag that Frazier saw?

Oswald denied carrying curtain rods, Frazier says Oswald told him the bag contained curtain rods.

How does that prove that CE 142 was the bag that Frazier saw?

[Walt Cakebread]

Since the tale of the paper bag rests on Buell Frazier's statement that Lee Oswald carried a paper bag on the back seat of the car when he drove them to work on the morning of the murder of President Kennedy.   And since the Warren Commission ignored both Frazier and his sister when they testified that the bag they saw Lee Oswald carry was not long enough to have contained the Mannlicher Carcano rifle that was found where it had been carefully hidden beneath boxes of books.   The key question becomes ...Was Buell Frazier telling the truth?    Can we rely on Frazier's veracity?

Does anybody know how to contact Wes Frazier?    I'd like to talk to him....  Perhaps he could contact me through a message on this forum.

[Joe Elliott]

Wesley said that the bag he saw Oswald carry was not CE 142.  Do you see a reason for him (then or now) to lie about that?

Yes. To avoid being prosecuted as an accessory to murder.

The Dallas Police spent hours grilling Frazier, trying to get him to confess to knowingly transporting Oswald and his rifle, in that bag.

Under the circumstances, it was natural for Frazier to convince himself that the bag he was presented with could not have been the bag he saw earlier that day. That indeed, the bag he saw was actually too short to carry a rifle at all.

Of course, I don?t think that Frazier was lying. But it would be natural for someone in his position to convince himself that this was not the bag and the bag he saw was too short. And the same goes for his sister who was, I imagine, upset to learn that the information she provided to the police was now being used to try to get her brother to confess.

If this does not count as a reason, what would count as a reason?