Buell Wesley Frazier

[Bill Chapman]

Does the package that Danny The Rat is holding look like CE 142??

LBJ's "Special Blue Ribbon Committee "    Told us that CE 142 was the sack that Lee used to carry the rifle .......( of course there wasn't a iota of physical evidence that any rifle had ever been in CE 142 , (but what hell.....They didn't need no stinkin physical evidence) 

Danny obviously ignores the WC theory (twisted though it be) and presents the viewers with his idea of the paper sack...

Try to follow along. Rather is demonstrating the 34.8" size, not the exact look of the bag.

I maintain that at that size, the bag wouldn't be all that difficult to fool someone who thinks it contained curtain rods, and another who saw Oswald only out of the corner of his eye... especially wearing a baggy-sleeved jacket, allowing for extra concealment.

[Bill Chapman]

Really, Bill?

Show us where they did.

Seems Randle stated the size was 3ft long, given that Bookout didn't say anything about her physically indicating the size of the bag.

[Martin Weidmann]

Seems Randle stated the size was 3ft long, given that Bookout didn't say anything about her physically indicating the size of the bag.

No. It seems that Bookhout wrote in his FD 302 that Randle had stated that. There is a difference!

[Ray Mitcham]

Randle "Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it. "

If it the package had been 3.6" long, he would have to been holding the package in the middle not at the top as she says he was.

[Walt Cakebread]

Try to follow along. Rather is demonstrating the 34.8" size, not the exact look of the bag.

I maintain that at that size, the bag wouldn't be all that difficult to fool someone who thinks it contained curtain rods, and another who saw Oswald only out of the corner of his eye... especially wearing a baggy-sleeved jacket, allowing for extra concealment.

Try to follow along. Rather is demonstrating the 34.8" size, not the exact look of the bag.


Yes, he knew that he was talking to suckers who wouldn't know that the sack he was showing them was NOT like the bag in evidence  ( CE 142)   He knew he could dupe fools......  And it looks like he succeeded.  He duped at least one fool, didn't he Chappie?

[Bill Chapman]

No, I don't think it will.  Linnie Mae always maintained that the bag he saw was shorter.  During her testimony they measured how long she estimated it to be with a mockup and came up with 27 inches one time and 28 1/2 inches the other time.  FBI agents would conduct their interviews and not take contemporaneous notes.  They would finish the interview and then go off and transcribe what they heard.  The WC should have asked her about this discrepancy because it very possible that Bookhout misunderstood her or didn't transcribe what she said properly.  We also don't know if she gave Bookhout a length herself or if Bookhout estimated it himself from her holding her hands apart or whatever.

What we do know is that Bookout reported that Randle stated the bag was approximately 3', no matter how many Bookout-might-have-done-this, Bookout-might-have-done-thatisms you lot can cook up.

[Bill Chapman]

Try to follow along. Rather is demonstrating the 34.8" size, not the exact look of the bag.


Yes, he knew that he was talking to suckers who wouldn't know that the sack he was showing them was NOT like the bag in evidence  ( CE 142)   He knew he could dupe fools......  And it looks like he succeeded.  He duped at least one fool, didn't he Chappie?

The whole point is to first demonstrate that the bag profile (at 34.8") was small enough to be concealed. Tony and others always used CE142 in its flattened, spread out version, so as to make the profile appear as large as possible.

The real dupes are you lot.

[Martin Weidmann]

What we do know is that Bookout reported that Randle stated the bag was approximately 3', no matter how many Bookout-might-have-done-this, Bookout-might-have-done-thatisms you lot can cook up.

What is also known is that Randle never stated that size whenever we heard from her directly?...