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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #464 on: March 07, 2025, 01:10:15 AM »
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Again, in the real world, there is no dilemma. It only exists in your imagination.

What makes you think that there actually were curtain rods in that bag?

Just because Oswald used it as an excuse to explain his trip to Irving instead of telling a 19 year old co-worker about his marital problems?

Your self serving speculation is pathetic.

All this BS;

is more than likely based on a white lie Oswald told Frazier to explain why he went to Irving.

Why don't you provide actual evidence that there was indeed a rifle, belonging to Oswald, in Ruth Paine's garage on 11/21/63?

If you do that, we may have something to talk about....... so, where is that evidence?

C'mon Martin, this is weak sauce, it's well established that Oswald was having marital problems because for a start he wasn't living with Marina, DUH!
And their latest tiff happened on the previous Monday, so Oswald had Tuesday and Wednesday to rectify their marriage but instead of waiting till the weekend where he would have 2 full days to fully explain himself, he chose Thursday, the precise night before the President arrived. Some coincidence?

But anyway, you keep running from the fact that Oswald took a large package to work and instead of answering my simple questions, you keep deflecting because let's face it, you're stumped!

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« Reply #465 on: March 07, 2025, 01:22:58 AM »
:D It has been corrected.

 It was a little too obvious to not have been just an oversight.

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« Reply #466 on: March 07, 2025, 01:27:24 AM »
How is he bent over? - if the package is shorter - he holds in the manner she had seen.
How does a shorter package restrict the way he held it, if he can reach both portions
One hand near the top -  the other for support at the bottom. I seriously don't understand your point.

It is certainly is NO proof the package is longer than about 2 feet.

MC--"One hand near the top -  the other for support at the bottom. I seriously don't understand your point."

This is also obvious. If the almost touches the ground and his left hand is near the bottom, LHO has to be bent over to be holding.

Oswald is 5 feet 9 inches----69 inches tall, LHO waist would be approximately 29 inches

The bag is 27 inches. 

Oswald right hand is several inches below the top. Left hand near the bottom.

Linnie Mae stated the bag almost touched the ground. That would make LHO’s right hand below 6 inches + below his waist and his left hand near the ground. He would have to be bent at the waist to carry the package with the bottom close the ground along with his left hand.

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.


Mr. BALL. And he was grabbing it with his right hand at the top of the package and the package almost touched the ground?

Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.

 

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« Reply #467 on: March 07, 2025, 01:35:06 AM »
I'm aware that facts don't worry you too much, so how would you have noticed? Carry on. ROFL.

John Myton is working overtime to educate you on the facts but it does not appear to be taking. If you decide to actually contribute something to the discussion instead of this nonsense that would be great.
 

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« Reply #468 on: March 07, 2025, 01:43:35 AM »
The bag is 27 inches. 

The rifle broken down is 34.8 inches long,  About 40 inches assembled.
So, whatever Frazier saw was obviously not the rifle.

How does this prove what LMR saw was any longer?
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« Reply #469 on: March 07, 2025, 01:59:32 AM »
John Myton is working overtime to educate you on the facts but it does not appear to be taking. If you decide to actually contribute something to the discussion instead of this nonsense that would be great.

Mytton is in the same dilemma as you. He just has more pictures.
...they provide no further proof but appear right on cue.

Sometimes they flash and blink with yellow squigglys.

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« Reply #470 on: March 07, 2025, 02:05:50 AM »
MC--"One hand near the top -  the other for support at the bottom. I seriously don't understand your point."

This is also obvious. If the almost touches the ground and his left hand is near the bottom, LHO has to be bent over to be holding.

Oswald is 5 feet 9 inches----69 inches tall, LHO waist would be approximately 29 inches

The bag is 27 inches. 

Oswald right hand is several inches below the top. Left hand near the bottom.

Linnie Mae stated the bag almost touched the ground. That would make LHO’s right hand below 6 inches + below his waist and his left hand near the ground. He would have to be bent at the waist to carry the package with the bottom close the ground along with his left hand.

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.


Mr. BALL. And he was grabbing it with his right hand at the top of the package and the package almost touched the ground?

Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.


I made this graphic a few years ago illustrating how Linnie Mae was describing how Oswald was holding the bag, and if the bag was only 2 feet long then it wouldn't be almost touching the ground because Oswald isn't a gorilla!



Also another fun fact, is if you look at Oswald's bag being taken from the depository the bottom which is the open side is excessively crumpled as if someone was holding it like Linnie Mae described!



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« Reply #471 on: March 07, 2025, 02:10:33 AM »
Mytton is in the same dilemma as you. He just has more pictures.
...they provide no further proof but appear right on cue.

Sometimes they flash and blink with yellow squigglys.

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Mytton is in the same dilemma as you. He just has more pictures.
...they provide no further proof but appear right on cue.

Check out the images I posted directly before this one, it'll blow your mind!

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Sometimes they flash and blink with yellow squigglys.

They flash when I compare two photos and "coloured squigglys" are to highlight specific characteristics for those a bit slower than the rest of us!

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« Reply #471 on: March 07, 2025, 02:10:33 AM »