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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #504 on: March 07, 2025, 01:42:11 PM »
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It's really very simple, John.
YOU insisted Frazier is mistaken - what exactly is that mistake?

You better refresh my memory, show me the post where I say Frazier was mistaken?

JohnM

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Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #505 on: March 07, 2025, 01:43:26 PM »

2) Multiple officers saw Oswald's rifle bag in the corner of the TSBD. “If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound” JohnM

After the fact.

1) You yourself confirmed repeatedly that Frazier didn't pay attention to the bag and he admitted under oath that the bag may have been out in front, sorry but them's the facts.

True he didn't pay attention to the bag but was sure of how he held it.

Mr. BALL - You say he had the package under his arm when you saw him?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL - You mean one end of it under the armpit?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; he had it up just like you stick it right under your arm like that.

Mr. BALL - And he had the lower part--
Mr. FRAZIER - The other part with his right hand.

Mr. BALL - Right hand?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.

Mr. BALL - He carried it then parallel to his body?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right, straight up and down.

Representative FORD - Under his right arm?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes.

and the bottom:
Mr. FRAZIER - I didn't pay much attention, but when I did, I say, he had this part down here,
like the bottom would be short he had cupped in his hand like that...".

3) The time that Linnie or Wesley saw the bag, is a fraction of time Oswald spent making, carrying and unpacking his rifle bag, so your statement is just plain stupid.

There is no evidence of merit in this statement
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #506 on: March 07, 2025, 01:44:36 PM »
1) You yourself confirmed repeatedly that Frazier didn't pay attention to the bag and he admitted under oath that the bag may have been out in front, sorry but them's the facts.

2) Multiple officers saw Oswald's rifle bag in the corner of the TSBD. “If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound”

3) The time that Linnie or Wesley saw the bag, is a fraction of time Oswald spent making, carrying and unpacking his rifle bag, so your statement is just plain stupid.

This is fun, keep at it though and maybe just maybe you might be able to come up with a worthwhile response!

JohnM

Instead of constantly arguing about a paper bag, why don't you shut us up completely by providing evidence that shows there actually was a rifle in Ruth Paine's garage on 11/21/63?

No rifle = no need for a trip to Irving to collect it
No rifle = no need to make a paper bag

Your constant ramblings about a paper bag only demonstrate how weak your arguments really are!


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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #507 on: March 07, 2025, 01:57:55 PM »
Instead of constantly arguing about a paper bag, why don't you shut us up completely by providing evidence that shows there actually was a rifle in Ruth Paine's garage on 11/21/63?

No rifle = no need for a trip to Irving to collect it
No rifle = no need to make a paper bag

Your constant ramblings about a paper bag only demonstrate how weak your arguments really are!

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No rifle = no need for a trip to Irving to collect it

Hahahaha! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, Oswald knew he had a rifle wrapped in a blanket on the floor of the Paine garage, therefore he made the trip to Irving to collect it, so;

Yes rifle = need for a trip to Irving to collect it.

JohnM

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #508 on: March 07, 2025, 02:07:24 PM »
You better refresh my memory, show me the post where I say Frazier was mistaken?

JohnM

My mistake. So, your gonna go with the phony Frazier lied (though he had absolutely no reason to) when Frritz threatened him and walked out?
Thumb1: Got it.
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Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #509 on: March 07, 2025, 02:41:55 PM »
Show me where LMR said he held the bag with 2 hands.
I made an assumption based on what you said about the prints. - I wont do that again

and how does LMR prove the bag is longer? - it must be the 7th time I asked that one

John has taken care of this in spades. The conspiracy individuals do not seem to be able to get out of their own way. Same endless story, all pointless questions and never any answers.

You posted this    MC: "One hand near the top -  the other for support at the bottom. I seriously don't understand your point"

You cut and pasted this:

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.

So you say things and do things and then you deny it all. 

There is only one way Linnie can claim the bag almost touched the ground, is if she saw it.

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.

Mr. BALL. And he was grabbing it with his right hand at the top of the package and the package almost touched the ground?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.


You are mistaking her not seeing his pants with the package obscuring them.

Once again, the fingerprints on the bag discovered in the SN match her description.

it must be the 7th time I asked that one

It has been answered to death. You just don't like the answer. If you can't do the math, get someone to help you.

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« Reply #510 on: March 07, 2025, 02:44:26 PM »
John has taken care of this in spades. The conspiracy individuals do not seem to be able to get out of their own way. Same endless story, all pointless questions and never any answers.

You posted this    MC: "One hand near the top -  the other for support at the bottom. I seriously don't understand your point"

You cut and pasted this:

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.

So you say things and do things and then you deny it all. 

There is only one way Linnie can claim the bag almost touched the ground, is if she saw it.

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.

Mr. BALL. And he was grabbing it with his right hand at the top of the package and the package almost touched the ground?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.


You are mistaking her not seeing his pants with the package obscuring them.

Once again, the fingerprints on the bag discovered in the SN match her description.

it must be the 7th time I asked that one

It has been answered to death. You just don't like the answer. If you can't do the math, get someone to help you.

All garbage !  - All you need now is to show where LMR said Lee even used his left hand.
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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #511 on: March 07, 2025, 02:47:00 PM »
"Facts", there you go. Always a fresh episode of The Nessan Clown Show. Carry on!

What?  It may be made sense to you in your head, but it doesn't make any sense on paper. Maybe try not attempting to be clever, it is not really working out.

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« Reply #511 on: March 07, 2025, 02:47:00 PM »