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« Reply #544 on: March 08, 2025, 08:47:30 PM »
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There are fingerprints confirming Linnie Mae’s description of how it was held.

No.  As Pat Speer brilliantly illustrated, the palmprint was near the middle of the bag, and the fingerprint was near the bottom of the bag.

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« Reply #545 on: March 08, 2025, 08:58:40 PM »
Besides the Mountain of physical evidence

LOL

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1) Oswald asks Frazier to take him to Irving to get "curtain rods".
2) Oswald breaks his usual routine and goes to Irving on a Thursday which just happens to be the day before the Presidential visit, what a coincidence!
3) Oswald goes against standard protocol and doesn't get permission from Ruth Paine for his unexpected visit.
4) Oswald leaves most of his money.
5) Oswald leaves his wedding ring.
6) Oswald never tells Marina he's going to leave with "curtain rods".
7) Oswald never tells Ruth that he's going to leave with "curtain rods".
8} Oswald upon reaching Frazier's house immediately hides the "curtain rods" in Frazier's car.
9) Oswald's package is seen by Frazier on the back seat of Frazier's car and Oswald confirms that it contains "curtain rods", whereas the interrogators recall that Oswald said he carried the package on his lap in the front seat.
10) Oswald is 50 feet ahead of Frazier when entering the Texas School Book Depository, another first.
11) Oswald leaves the Depository not at the start or end of lunch but after about 3 minutes from when the President is assassinated, roughly the time it takes to walk from the 6th floor, be confronted, buy a coke and then exit on the ground floor.
12) Oswald never asks permission to leave work by his immediate superior Shelley, in fact Shelley testifies that he never sees Oswald after 12PM.
13) Oswald made a great effort to get "curtain rods" yet isn't seen by Bledsoe on the bus carrying "curtain rods"
14) Oswald isn't seen in Whaley's cab carrying "curtain rods"
15) Oswald isn't seen by Roberts carrying "curtain rods" into his room at the rooming house.
16) Oswald's room doesn't contain any additional "curtain rods".
17) Oswald's room doesn't even need additional "curtain rods".
18) Oswald was not described by any eyewitnesses at the Tippit crime scene carrying "curtain rods"
19) Oswald was not described by Johnny Brewer as carrying "curtain rods"
20) Oswald didn't hit Officer McDonald over the head in the Texas Theatre with "curtain rods"
21) Oswald told his interrogators a different story that he never had "curtain rods" and only carried his lunch to work.
22) Oswald's prints were found on a brown paper bag recovered in the sniper's nest.
23) Oswald's rifle was a neat fit for the brown paper bag.
24) Oswald's "curtain rods" were never found in the Depository.

That is a really cool list of claims, exactly none of which are evidence that Oswald brought a rifle into the TSBD.

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« Reply #546 on: March 08, 2025, 09:00:01 PM »
Your quoting Linnie’s second recounting not her first. Her first is a 42 inch bag, that was being held in a manner that would have LHO bent at the hip to be holding a 27 inch bag in the same manner.

 BS:

She never said anything about a 42 inch bag.

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« Reply #547 on: March 08, 2025, 09:05:28 PM »
If the rifle stayed fully assembled, a small lunch sized bag could simply and easily be placed over the exposed muzzle end of the barrel to hide it. That solution would have been much simpler and quicker than disassembling and reassembling the rifle. The small lunch sized bag could have been disposed of anywhere in the TSBD and would not have appeared out of place.

If a small lunch bag could have been disposed of anywhere, then so could a two-foot long bag.

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« Reply #548 on: March 08, 2025, 09:06:23 PM »
1) In the following video @3:33 Buell Wesley Frazier Under Oath, admits that he hardly paid any attention to the bag and the bag could have been protruding out the front of his body,

"could have been".  LOL.

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« Reply #549 on: March 08, 2025, 09:12:12 PM »
Tom Sorenson provided an opinion and nothing else, just background noise.

Simply amazing given that you have no evidence beyond your opinion that there was any rifle in any package.

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« Reply #550 on: March 08, 2025, 09:14:24 PM »
Another interesting factoid is another simpleton Dougherty testified that some of the fellows and specifically Shelley saw the bag, but obviously Shelley knew better than to admit that he saw Oswald carry the murder weapon. But poor old Frazier had no choice but to slightly twist and admit what he saw, but the best excuse Frazier could come up with, was to introduce a little white lie.

Your cherry-picking skills are a wonder to witness.  Not unlike rubber-necking at the site of a horrific automobile accident.

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« Reply #551 on: March 08, 2025, 09:17:28 PM »
So Michael, you acknowledge that Oswald carried a long package to work, why didn't anyone who saw Oswald in the immediate aftermath see Oswald with the long package?
Because the package was important enough for Oswald to make a special trip to Irving to collect it, so where is it, what happened to it and why would Oswald leave it behind?

I propose a theory that explains it all, hear me out.
Oswald made a special trip to Irving on a Thursday so he could retrieve his rifle, a rifle that was missing form the Paine garage on the Friday afternoon.
Oswald wrapped the rifle in brown paper that came from the Depository so the rifle sack could be easily smuggled into his work and wouldn't be so conspicuous.
Oswald left the paper sack and the rifle on the 6th floor and got the heck out of there as quickly as possible.
See Michael, no mental gymnastics required, a straight forward assassination explains ALL the evidence and also explains ALL of Oswald's actions.

Cool story, bro.

If only you had any evidence whatsoever that it is actually true.

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« Reply #551 on: March 08, 2025, 09:17:28 PM »