Buell Wesley Frazier

[Tom Sorensen]

I hear some noise in the background; could that be John Mytton? Wrong bullet, according to Edwin Walker. He was there when the bullet was dug out of the wall.

[Tom Sorensen]

I hear some noise in the background; could that be John Mytton? Wrong bullet, according to Edwin Walker. He was there when the bullet was dug out of the wall.

OK, before everyone gets riled up, the bullet penetrated the wall and was found on a "stack of literature."

[Tom Sorensen]

We have arrived at the rabbit hole.  We have the testimony of Oswald's own wife that he practiced with the rifle and that he told her that he did so.  Your rebuttal is that she could be lying despite there being apparent no reason for her to lie about him practicing with the rifle.  It is not a crime to practice firing your rifle.   We have the logical inference that if Oswald ordered a rifle with his limited means and was so excited to get it that he posed for pictures, that he intended to use it.   There is otherwise no explanation for ordering the rifle.

We have arrived at the rabbit hole.

Looks like you already went over the edge.

We have the testimony of Oswald's own wife that he practiced with the rifle and that he told her that he did so.

Strange wording, "his own wife" as opposed to "his wife," which should have sufficed. Doubling down on her claim ("and") doesn't improve her credibility. She's a known liar.

Your rebuttal is that she could be lying despite there being apparent no reason for her to lie about him practicing with the rifle.

I pointed out your incorrect use of "confirm." I didn't speculate about her intend motive. Her claim remains unconfirmed.

It is not a crime to practice firing your rifle.   

Strawman, I didn't claim that.

We have the logical inference that if Oswald ordered a rifle with his limited means and was so excited to get it that he posed for pictures, he intended to use it.

Wrong, we have Richard's flawed inference. What you have at best is intent intend to pose in front of a camera with a rifle.

There is otherwise no explanation for ordering the rifle.

I just told you there is; you fail again.

[John Mytton]

I hear some noise in the background; could that be John Mytton? Wrong bullet, according to Edwin Walker. He was there when the bullet was dug out of the wall.

In his letter to the Attorney General, General Walker saw the bullet on TV during a HSCA broadcast and describes the bullet found at his house as a "hunk of lead" and "baring no resemblance to an unfired bullet in shape of form"



The bullet fragment from the Walker residence has a fair amount of lead showing.




CE 399 would be seen on a low res 1970's television broadcast to appear to be "unfired"



Conclusion

The HSCA showed CE 399 as opposed to the Walker bullet, and from Walker's very own description in the above letter it's clear he saw CE 399.

JohnM

[Tom Sorensen]

Strange, the guys who were there described it as being steel jacketed.

[Richard Smith]

We have arrived at the rabbit hole.

Looks like you already went over the edge.

We have the testimony of Oswald's own wife that he practiced with the rifle and that he told her that he did so.

Strange wording, "his own wife" as opposed to "his wife," which should have sufficed. Doubling down on her claim ("and") doesn't improve her credibility. She's a known liar.

Your rebuttal is that she could be lying despite there being apparent no reason for her to lie about him practicing with the rifle.

I pointed out your incorrect use of "confirm." I didn't speculate about her intend motive. Her claim remains unconfirmed.

It is not a crime to practice firing your rifle.   

Strawman, I didn't claim that.

We have the logical inference that if Oswald ordered a rifle with his limited means and was so excited to get it that he posed for pictures, he intended to use it.

Wrong, we have Richard's flawed inference. What you have at best is intent intend to pose in front of a camera with a rifle.

There is otherwise no explanation for ordering the rifle.

I just told you there is; you fail again.

So many words but again no responses.  Again, can you tells us what Marina lied about?  And it's not a logical inference that someone who buys a rifle will use it to shoot?   HA HA HA HA.  Can you tell us what someone would do with a rifle?  It appears to have a singular purpose, but do you think Oswald intended to so something other than fire it like using it as a hockey stick to gain entry into the NHL?  It's embarrassing to see the lengths that you will go to avoid admitting the obvious.

[Michael Capasse]

In his letter to the Attorney General, General Walker saw the bullet on TV during a HSCA broadcast and describes the bullet found at his house as a "hunk of lead" and "baring no resemblance to an unfired bullet in shape of form"

The bullet fragment from the Walker residence has a fair amount of lead showing.

CE 399 would be seen on a low res 1970's television broadcast to appear to be "unfired"

Conclusion

The HSCA showed CE 399 as opposed to the Walker bullet, and from Walker's very own description in the above letter it's clear he saw CE 399.

CE399? - Do you actually think Walker confused any reference of source that was given by Blakeley as HIS bullet?
Do you actually think the picture in the 70's would have such a low resolution that he would confuse the shape or color/tone that he saw?
I don't, that's lame

Two Dallas Police reports cite the bullet as steel jacket from a 30.06 cal. shotgun.
Dallas Morning News reported it the next day, "steel jacket bullet" https://jfk.boards.net/post/4796
Walker, an Army General with extensive military experience held the bullet in his hand.

These documents from the Weisberg collection raise serious doubts that the Carcano was the rifle used in the Walker shooting.
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/W%20Disk/Walker%20Shooting/Item%2005.pdf

The evidence against Oswald is broken and inconsistent, everywhere you look.

[Michael Capasse]

So many words but again no responses.  Again, can you tells us what Marina lied about?  And it's not a logical inference that someone who buys a rifle will use it to shoot?   HA HA HA HA.  Can you tell us what someone would do with a rifle?  It appears to have a singular purpose, but do you think Oswald intended to so something other than fire it like using it as a hockey stick to gain entry into the NHL?  It's embarrassing to see the lengths that you will go to avoid admitting the obvious.

Marina was an admitted liar. Her testimony to the Commission cannot be trusted.
Her visa was up at the end of January '64. She was under "protective custody" with the threat of deportation until the day she testified.

A Statement to the Assassination Records Review Board
from Marina Oswald Porter, September 17, 1996
=====================================================

"This case has never been OPENED. The twenty-six volumes of the Warren Commission do not support its conclusions. My final conclusion
is that the man--Lee--was not on the sixth floor. We're not even sure about the rifle. According to the local police chief, we never could
put the rifle and the person (Oswald) together. Lee was charged with the crime. They showed him a picture, said this is a rifle, this is
you; he denied it. But they never showed him the weapon for identification. I'm the one who was supposed to identify the rifle,
and I did, believing in the authorities' good intentions . But I was the worst of all. I knew nothing of weapons or guns; I knew nothing."

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