Buell Wesley Frazier

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Mrs. RANDLE  .....“and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it”

I guess it is not simple if you don’t want it to be. 

 

Seriously John, you are stymied by this? You think he carried both the top,---- “the top....had a grip like this”   

AND     “ the bottom he carried this way” ---- you are stating he did this with one giant hand. 

Right hand:  and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this,

Left hand:  and the bottom, he carried it this way


Mr. BALL. And he was grabbing it with his right hand at the top of the package and the package almost touched the ground?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.

The math and walking erect does not work on a 27 inch package. Does it work for you? Right hand 24 inches of the ground? Left hand lower. Exactly what would he look like walking that way?

Remember (yes, stating the obvious but sometimes its needed): this was supposedly curtain rods he was carrying. Or his lunch.

Nobody can seriously believe it was curtain rods. Or his lunch. But they do. And here they are.

Then they say that "nutters" are believing absurd things?

[Jack Nessan]

Remember (yes, stating the obvious but sometimes its needed): this was supposedly curtain rods he was carrying. Or his lunch.

Nobody can seriously believe it was curtain rods. Or his lunch. But they do. And here they are.

Then they say that "nutters" are believing absurd things?

I would hate to be forced to be around one of them all day. Listening to the absurd fantasy scenarios all day, I bet by the end you would want to hang yourself.

[Richard Smith]

Remember (yes, stating the obvious but sometimes its needed): this was supposedly curtain rods he was carrying. Or his lunch.

Nobody can seriously believe it was curtain rods. Or his lunch. But they do. And here they are.

Then they say that "nutters" are believing absurd things?

It is hopeless.  I think there are some folks here who actually have doubts about Oswald's guilt.  They can't quite articulate why and certainly can't prove anyone else did it.  Instead, these folks cling to any straw or interpretation that could lend itself to doubt no matter how absurd.  Frazier asked Oswald about his lunch that day, and Oswald himself confirmed that he had not brought it.   Why would Oswald lie to his co-worker about not bringing his lunch that morning?  Oswald tells the police that opposite, however, indicating that he had carried his lunch.  What does Oswald have a greater incentive to lie about?  Carrying his lunch or the bag containing a rifle that he used to kill the president?  CTers are impervious to the logic and facts, however.  Frazier makes an estimate of the bag's length based on his brief look.  The bag exits, however.  It was measured.  We know exactly how long it was.  There is no need to rely on a cursory estimate.  CTer cling to Frazier's estimated.  And on and on and on endlessly down the rabbit hole.   There are others here who likely know that Oswald did it, but they like to play the contrarian like a defense attorney.  An endless game to them.  Only a psychiatrist could sort that one out.

[Martin Weidmann]

It is hopeless.  I think there are some folks here who actually have doubts about Oswald's guilt.  They can't quite articulate why and certainly can't prove anyone else did it.  Instead, these folks cling to any straw or interpretation that could lend itself to doubt no matter how absurd.  Frazier asked Oswald about his lunch that day, and Oswald himself confirmed that he had not brought it.   Why would Oswald lie to his co-worker about not bringing his lunch that morning?  Oswald tells the police that opposite, however, indicating that he had carried his lunch.  What does Oswald have a greater incentive to lie about?  Carrying his lunch or the bag containing a rifle that he used to kill the president?  CTers are impervious to the logic and facts, however.  Frazier makes an estimate of the bag's length based on his brief look.  The bag exits, however.  It was measured.  We know exactly how long it was.  There is no need to rely on a cursory estimate.  CTer cling to Frazier's estimated.  And on and on and on endlessly down the rabbit hole.   There are others here who likely know that Oswald did it, but they like to play the contrarian like a defense attorney.  An endless game to them.  Only a psychiatrist could sort that one out.

Frazier makes an estimate of the bag's length based on his brief look.  The bag exits, however.  It was measured.  We know exactly how long it was.  There is no need to rely on a cursory estimate.

It is of course far better to rely on your massive assumption that the bag you are talking about was indeed the bag Oswald carried, right? 

[Tom Sorensen]

It is hopeless.  I think there are some folks here who actually have doubts about Oswald's guilt.  They can't quite articulate why and certainly can't prove anyone else did it.  Instead, these folks cling to any straw or interpretation that could lend itself to doubt no matter how absurd.  Frazier asked Oswald about his lunch that day, and Oswald himself confirmed that he had not brought it.   Why would Oswald lie to his co-worker about not bringing his lunch that morning?  Oswald tells the police that opposite, however, indicating that he had carried his lunch.  What does Oswald have a greater incentive to lie about?  Carrying his lunch or the bag containing a rifle that he used to kill the president?  CTers are impervious to the logic and facts, however.  Frazier makes an estimate of the bag's length based on his brief look.  The bag exits, however.  It was measured.  We know exactly how long it was.  There is no need to rely on a cursory estimate.  CTer cling to Frazier's estimated.  And on and on and on endlessly down the rabbit hole.   There are others here who likely know that Oswald did it, but they like to play the contrarian like a defense attorney.  An endless game to them.  Only a psychiatrist could sort that one out.

You couldn't possibly know what Frazier asked Oswald and what he answered; you've developed a habit of claiming stuff you can't back up with facts.

[Richard Smith]

You couldn't possibly know what Frazier asked Oswald and what he answered; you've developed a habit of claiming stuff you can't back up with facts.

Huh?  Do you mean that I need to be present at the event to confirm any fact from history?  For example, I can't "know" that Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg address until Elon Musk invents a time machine that allows me to attend the event in person?  Wow.  Aren't you embarrassed to peddle such nonsense?

Mr. BALL. Did you notice whether or not Lee had a package that looked
like a lunch package that morning?

Mr. FRAZIER. You know like I told you earlier, I say, he didn’t take his
lunch because I remember right when I got in the car 1 asked him where was
his lunch and he said he was going to buy his lunch that day.

Mr. BALL. He told you that that day, did he?

Xr. FRAZIER. Right. That is right. So, I assumed he was going to buy it,
you know, from that catering service man like a lot of the boys do. They
don’t bring their lunch but they go out and buy their lunch there.

[Martin Weidmann]

Huh?  Do you mean that I need to be present at the event to confirm any fact from history?  For example, I can't "know" that Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg address until Elon Musk invents a time machine that allows me to attend the event in person?  Wow.  Aren't you embarrassed to peddle such nonsense?

Mr. BALL. Did you notice whether or not Lee had a package that looked
like a lunch package that morning?

Mr. FRAZIER. You know like I told you earlier, I say, he didn’t take his
lunch because I remember right when I got in the car 1 asked him where was
his lunch and he said he was going to buy his lunch that day.

Mr. BALL. He told you that that day, did he?

Xr. FRAZIER. Right. That is right. So, I assumed he was going to buy it,
you know, from that catering service man like a lot of the boys do. They
don’t bring their lunch but they go out and buy their lunch there.

Huh?  Do you mean that I need to be present at the event to confirm any fact from history?  For example, I can't "know" that Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg address until Elon Musk invents a time machine that allows me to attend the event in person?  Wow.  Aren't you embarrassed to peddle such nonsense?

He isn't peddling nonsense, you are!

There is a mountain of evidence that shows that Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg address.

There is only one source for what Oswald told Frazier and that's Buell Frazier, the same guy you refuse to believe when he says that Oswald carried the package under his armpit and in the cup of his hand.

Try again when you have apples to compare with apples!

[Tom Sorensen]

Huh?  Do you mean that I need to be present at the event to confirm any fact from history?  For example, I can't "know" that Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg address until Elon Musk invents a time machine that allows me to attend the event in person?  Wow.  Aren't you embarrassed to peddle such nonsense?

Mr. BALL. Did you notice whether or not Lee had a package that looked
like a lunch package that morning?

Mr. FRAZIER. You know like I told you earlier, I say, he didn’t take his
lunch because I remember right when I got in the car 1 asked him where was
his lunch and he said he was going to buy his lunch that day.

Mr. BALL. He told you that that day, did he?

Xr. FRAZIER. Right. That is right. So, I assumed he was going to buy it,
you know, from that catering service man like a lot of the boys do. They
don’t bring their lunch but they go out and buy their lunch there.

As Martin pointed out, you have blind faith in anything that supports your preferred narrative, not so much if it doesn't fit your fantasy—Nutter Trait Classic. There's no one alive to verify Frazier's story. Thanks to Cpt. Fritz, we don't even know what Oswald actually said during his interrogation. Any progress on Oswald's rifle practice?