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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #672 on: March 13, 2025, 09:35:57 PM »
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That's brutal stupidity.  Your list includes numerous people who were not even in the TSBD that day.  Bueller, Bueller, Bueller.... HA HA HA.  They didn't leave the building because they were apparently never there.  Do you think that is analogous to Oswald's situation who was PRESENT in the TSBD at the moment of the assassination and left within minutes not even pausing to ask what was happening.  Wow.

As usual Capasse exposes his inability to analyse any event. What a shocker!
The building was closed down pretty quickly and even Givens who the CK's like to use as an example of someone who left the building, tried to get back in.
What the CK's do in their never ending quest to prove Oswald was just a normal guy who became an unwitting "Patsy", is never give any of Oswald's actions the true weight they deserve, no employee left immediately after the crime and as they say in the classics, that's unquestionably consciousness of guilt.

Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you heard them?
Mr. GIVENS. Well, we broke and ran down that way, and by the time we got to the corner down there of Houston and Elm, everybody was running, going toward the underpass over there by the railroad tracks. And we asked--I asked someone some white fellow there, 'What happened ?" And he said, "Somebody shot the President." Like that. So I stood there for a while, and I went over to try to get to the building after they found out the shots came from there, and when I went over to try to get back in the officer at the door wouldn't let me in.
Mr. BELIN. Did you tell him you worked there?
Mr. GIVENS. Yes; but he still wouldn't let me in. He told me he wouldn't let no one in.


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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #673 on: March 13, 2025, 09:37:43 PM »
6 people not there. Wow. 15 people that were.
...and no formal lineup at work:

Mr. BALL. Did you make a check of your employees afterwards?
Mr. TRULY. No, no; not complete. No, I just saw the group of the employees over there on the floor and I noticed this boy wasn’t with them.

Try counting again.  More that 6 people on your list were not present at the TSBD.  Why would you even include someone who was not there to suggest that they had behaved like Oswald and left the building right after the assassination?  LOL.  Oswald's actions that day are singular.  No one else behaved like him. 

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« Reply #674 on: March 13, 2025, 09:54:54 PM »
Tosspot Time with Galbraith:

Again, he comes out of the building and shows no interest in all at this chaos going on right outside. In fact, he shows no interest at all at anytime *after* the shooting. Not a bit. So why on earth would Galbraith expect Oswald to act normal when he just lectured us about him being an anti-social, commie-defecting nutjob?

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So why on earth would Galbraith expect Oswald to act normal when he just lectured us about him being an anti-social, commie-defecting nutjob?

Huh? You're making Steve's point for him and reinforcing his conclusion, Oswald didn't act normal because he was in fact an "anti-social, commie-defecting nutjob", who after the assassination immediately left the building.

Pure logic has never been your forte, has it, Tom!

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« Reply #675 on: March 13, 2025, 10:04:36 PM »
As usual Capasse exposes his inability to analyse any event. What a shocker!
The building was closed down pretty quickly and even Givens who the CK's like to use as an example of someone who left the building, tried to get back in.
What the CK's do in their never ending quest to prove Oswald was just a normal guy who became an unwitting "Patsy", is never give any of Oswald's actions the true weight they deserve, no employee left immediately after the crime and as they say in the classics, that's unquestionably consciousness of guilt.

Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you heard them?
Mr. GIVENS. Well, we broke and ran down that way, and by the time we got to the corner down there of Houston and Elm, everybody was running, going toward the underpass over there by the railroad tracks. And we asked--I asked someone some white fellow there, 'What happened ?" And he said, "Somebody shot the President." Like that. So I stood there for a while, and I went over to try to get to the building after they found out the shots came from there, and when I went over to try to get back in the officer at the door wouldn't let me in.
Mr. BELIN. Did you tell him you worked there?
Mr. GIVENS. Yes; but he still wouldn't let me in. He told me he wouldn't let no one in.


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The fact that Oswald didn't even leave the building to watch the motorcade pass makes him stand out.  He was interested in history and politics.  Much better read and politically astute than any of his co-workers. He had read JFK's book.  But he is not even interested enough to take a moment to go outside and watch the motorcade pass?  Instead we are supposed to believe he sat quietly by himself eating lunch.  Good grief.  I honestly don't know if these CTers believe their own nonsense or if this is just a game to avoid ever admitting checkmate.  They just conjure up defense attorney explanations to create false doubt. My guess is that some are true believers in a conspiracy but most know that Oswald likely did it.

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« Reply #676 on: March 13, 2025, 10:06:46 PM »
Oswald was *the only* person in the building at the time of the shooting who left right afterwards. Without permission. Again, he comes out of the building and shows no interest in all at this chaos going on right outside. In fact, he shows no interest at all at anytime *after* the shooting. Not a bit.

What kind of interest do you expect him to show? Not everybody wants to stand front row. Some people just do not want to get involved and walk away after seeing a shooting or an accident.

Besides, Mrs Reid had already told him the President had been shot at and could have been injured. And you don't know if he talked to anybody else who could given him additional information.

According to CK's Oswald liked the President and even though, arguably, the most important man in the World was passing by the building Oswald was in, he never bothered having a look, Oswald didn't even go to a window to see the man he liked and after Kennedy was shot and possibly injured, all Oswald wanted to do was get to the cinema as quickly as possible and ironically see two movies "War Is Hell" and "Cry of Battle" with even more death and senseless violence? You can't make this up!

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #677 on: March 13, 2025, 10:15:46 PM »
Huh? You're making Steve's point for him and reinforcing his conclusion, Oswald didn't act normal because he was in fact an "anti-social, commie-defecting nutjob", who after the assassination immediately left the building.

Pure logic has never been your forte, has it, Tom!

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Another one that went over your head, the second one. You're becoming an embarrassment to the Nutter Brigade. Now run along.

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« Reply #678 on: March 13, 2025, 10:19:25 PM »
The fact that Oswald didn't even leave the building to watch the motorcade pass makes him stand out.  He was interested in history and politics.  Much better read and politically astute than any of his co-workers. He had read JFK's book.  But he is not even interested enough to take a moment to go outside and watch the motorcade pass?  Instead we are supposed to believe he sat quietly by himself eating lunch.  Good grief.  I honestly don't know if these CTers believe their own nonsense or if this is just a game to avoid ever admitting checkmate.  They just conjure up defense attorney explanations to create false doubt. My guess is that some are true believers in a conspiracy but most know that Oswald likely did it.

Great minds think alike, just after your post I made the same point! And even if Oswald didn't like crowds, there were a bunch of windows where Oswald the Loner all by himself could have safely watched the President go by, and Oswald could have easily had his lunch while watching.

Now before the CK's pipe up, I'm well aware that other employees didn't care and didn't watch the parade but as you say, Oswald was very politically orientated and we are led to believe that Oswald would give up this once in a lifetime opportunity? Really?

But let's get serious, as history has shown, Oswald did watch the Parade, through the 4xscope on his rifle!

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« Reply #679 on: March 13, 2025, 10:21:51 PM »
Another one that went over your head, the second one. You're becoming an embarrassment to the Nutter Brigade. Now run along.

You're posts are plain as day, if you want to believe that they have a deeper unseen meaning, shrouded by some indecipherable riddle, then be my guest.

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« Reply #679 on: March 13, 2025, 10:21:51 PM »