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« Reply #800 on: April 02, 2025, 04:41:19 AM »
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A KGB true defector (Major) Pyotr Deriabin (1954), wrote a day or two after the assassination that Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant to be allowed to marry her Handsome Prince Charming and leave The Worker's Paradise with him.

Not too devoted to her work. She was not even living with him anymore.

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« Reply #801 on: April 02, 2025, 11:11:08 AM »
Not too devoted to her work. She was not even living with him anymore.

How credible are KGB agents?

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« Reply #802 on: April 02, 2025, 11:23:58 AM »
How credible are KGB agents?

If they are a low-level KGB informant married to her Handsome Prince Charming, I would think very credible.

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« Reply #803 on: April 02, 2025, 11:41:54 AM »
If they are a low-level KGB informant married to her Handsome Prince Charming, I would think very credible.

Would you?

What if I had made it more obvious for you by writing, "Her Handsome Prince Charming" and "The Worker's Paradise" in scare quotes?

BTW, Deriabin said she had to be at least a low-level informant.

Maybe you missed that part.

The KGB said she was stupid, lazy, not a good Communist, and that the USSR was happy to get rid of her, yet she was a trained pharmacist, she'd recently been given a raise, and she was a dues-paying member of Komsomol.

It is interesting, isn't it, that she'd been a KGB "swallow" in Leningrad, she said she didn't know who her father was but she had a patronym ("Nikolayevna'), her uncle was an MVD colonel, and she spoke English a lot better than she let on?
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« Reply #804 on: April 02, 2025, 02:55:40 PM »
Would you?

What if I had made it more obvious for you by writing, "Her Handsome Prince Charming" and "The Worker's Paradise" in scare quotes?

BTW, Deriabin said she had to be at least a low-level informant.

Maybe you missed that part.

The KGB said she was stupid, lazy, not a good Communist, and that the USSR was happy to get rid of her, yet she was a trained pharmacist, she'd recently been given a raise, and she was a dues-paying member of Komsomol.

It is interesting, isn't it, that she'd been a KGB "swallow" in Leningrad, she said she didn't know who her father was but she had a patronym ("Nikolayevna'), her uncle was an MVD colonel, and she spoke English a lot better than she let on?

Would you?

yes

What if I had made it more obvious for you by writing, "Her Handsome Prince Charming" and "The Worker's Paradise" in scare quotes?

Check to make sure but I believe these are scare quotes.

BTW, Deriabin said she had to be at least a low-level informant.

Is she or isn’t she low level?
 
BTW my friend met her in the hallway at the HSCA testimonies. He said she had an unbelievable beautiful flawless complexion. Does that help.

The KGB said she was stupid, lazy, not a good Communist, and that the USSR was happy to get rid of her, yet she was a trained pharmacist, she'd recently been given a raise, and she was a dues-paying member of Komsomol.
 
It is interesting, isn't it, that she'd been a KGB "swallow" in Leningrad, she said she didn't know who her father was but she had a patronym ("Nikolayevna'), her uncle was an MVD colonel, and she spoke English a lot better than she let on?


Possibly all part of her cover to be married to a dufus and act like a non-English speaking housewife in Dallas.

 

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« Reply #805 on: April 02, 2025, 05:44:56 PM »
You obviously have fond memories of your discussion with Richard about the scope. Good for you, but in reality, it is nothing more than trying to change course on the discussion which shows you have absolutely no idea about what you are posting.
I will make it very clear-- I had not part of your scope nonsense. Could not have cared less.

Fond indeed, and it was Richard who came up with the "scope nonsense."

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TS   “As I've already pointed out (as did Michael Capasse) Marina has zero credibility”

Marina does not have credibility? Seriously two guys with zero credibility themselves claim someone else has no credibility. How does that work? How many times do you get caught piling on the BS yourself before you become an authority on when someone has no credibility?

Better yet in your mind what makes you an authority on it.

Her contradictory statements are documented; it's a matter of fact. Facts don't care whether you like them or not.

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“Oswald already knew how to shoot properly; he was an ex-marine.”

Not according to you. Talk about no credibility you posted earlier the marines were supposed to supply him with a carcano and teach him so he could learn.

Quote me on that.

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Now here you are presenting yourself as an authority on it on how much LHO knew and why the Marine Corp and the rest of the world is all wrong about dryfiring.

There's no supporting evidence for Oswald dry firing a Carcano, only Marina's claim that he did. Why do you hope to win this argument?

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Fond indeed, and it was Richard who came up with the "scope nonsense."

Her contradictory statements are documented; it's a matter of fact. Facts don't care whether you like them or not.

Quote me on that.

There's no supporting evidence for Oswald dry firing a Carcano, only Marina's claim that he did. Why do you hope to win this argument?

Fond indeed, and it was Richard who came up with the "scope nonsense."

OK, it holds no interest. People should forget it was even on the rifle.

Her contradictory statements are documented; it's a matter of fact. Facts don't care whether you like them or not.

If you throw a rock, you will hit a witness who made a contradictory statement in the JFK assassination. Does that mean no one has any credibility?

There's no supporting evidence for Oswald dry firing a Carcano, only Marina's claim that he did. Why do you hope to win this argument?

Not true, CE 543 shell was dryfired in LHO's carcano.

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« Reply #807 on: Today at 12:50:05 AM »
Would you?

yes

What if I had made it more obvious for you by writing, "Her Handsome Prince Charming" and "The Worker's Paradise" in scare quotes?

Check to make sure but I believe these are scare quotes.

BTW, Deriabin said she had to be at least a low-level informant.

Is she or isn’t she low level?
 
BTW my friend met her in the hallway at the HSCA testimonies. He said she had an unbelievable beautiful flawless complexion. Does that help.

The KGB said she was stupid, lazy, not a good Communist, and that the USSR was happy to get rid of her, yet she was a trained pharmacist, she'd recently been given a raise, and she was a dues-paying member of Komsomol.
 
It is interesting, isn't it, that she'd been a KGB "swallow" in Leningrad, she said she didn't know who her father was but she had a patronym ("Nikolayevna'), her uncle was an MVD colonel, and she spoke English a lot better than she let on?


Possibly all part of her cover to be married to a dufus and act like a non-English speaking housewife in Dallas.

This is my OP:

"A KGB true defector (Major) Pyotr Deriabin (1954), wrote a day or two after the assassination that Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant to be allowed to marry her Handsome Prince Charming and leave The Worker's Paradise with him."

Where are the scare quotes you say are in it -- scare quotes which I now realize I should have used so that even you could have understood I was being sarcastic?

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