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[Jack Nessan]

This is my OP:

"A KGB true defector (Major) Pyotr Deriabin (1954), wrote a day or two after the assassination that Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant to be allowed to marry her Handsome Prince Charming and leave The Worker's Paradise with him."

Where are the scare quotes you say are in it -- scare quotes which I now realize I should have used so that even you could have understood I was being sarcastic?

You weren't talking about your second post? I know you like the KGB aspect, I am surprised you were being sarcastic about it. Everyone in Russia can be characterized as a low-level KGB informant.

[Tom Graves]

You weren't talking about your second post? I know you like the KGB aspect, I am surprised you were being sarcastic about it. Everyone in Russia can be characterized as a low-level KGB informant.

Are you from Russia?

Regardless, by your logic, any female Soviet citizen was able to leave "The Worker's Paradise" (not the scare quotes signifying sarcasm) back in 1962 as easily as Marina Nikolayevna Prusakova did -- just marry a "Handsome Prince Charming" (note those scare quotes, once again, once again signifying sarcasm) American who happens to be a former sharpshooting Marine U-2 radar operator.

[Jack Nessan]

Are you from Russia?

Regardless, by your logic, any female Soviet citizen was able to leave "The Worker's Paradise" (not the scare quotes signifying sarcasm) back in 1962 as easily as Marina Nikolayevna Prusakova did -- just marry a "Handsome Prince Charming" (note those scare quotes, once again, once again signifying sarcasm) American who happens to be a former sharpshooting Marine U-2 radar operator.

Are you from Russia?

No more than Catherine the Great was.

Given LHO's suicide attempt. The Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia

[Tom Graves]

Are you from Russia?

Given LHO's suicide attempt. The Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia

Are you sure that Oswald really tried to kill himself?

Did he write in his "Historic Diary" that he cut one wrist, or both?

What did the records at Boskin hospital say?

If "the Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia," why did the mother-in-law of a future false-defector (KGB Colonel Igor Kochnov, secretly to the FBI in 1965 and "overtly" to the CIA in 1966 as KITTYHAWK; look him up), Yekaterina Furtseva (the most powerful woman in Russia; look her up), override (future false defector) Yuri Nosenko (look him up) and demand that Oswald not only be allowed to stay in the USSR, but NOT be recruited by the KGB?*

*As related to the CIA and the FBI by false defector Yuri Nosenko and other Kremlin-loyal KGB agents 

[Jack Nessan]

If "the Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia," why did the mother-in-law of a future false-defector (KGB Colonel Igor Kochnov, secretly to the FBI in 1965 and "overtly" to the CIA in 1966 as KITTYHAWK; look him up), Yekaterina Furtseva (the most powerful woman in Russia; look her up), override (future false defector) Yuri Nosenko (look him up) and demand that Oswald not only be allowed to stay in the USSR, but NOT be recruited by the KGB?

Before or after the suicide attempt by LHO? The Russians like the Americans soon realized he was nothing but a clown.

[Tom Graves]

Before or after the suicide attempt by LHO? The Russians like the Americans soon realized he was nothing but a clown.

I edited it a bit, so maybe you should read it again.

But to answer your question, after he "tried" to kill himself.

Obviously.

Here it is again for you:

Are you sure that Oswald really tried to kill himself? Did he write in his "Historic Diary" that he cut one wrist, or both? What did the records at Boskin hospital say? If "the Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia," why, AFTER OSWALD'S SUICIDE "ATTEMPT," did the mother-in-law of a future false-defector (KGB Colonel Igor Kochnov, secretly to the FBI in 1965 and "overtly" to the CIA in 1966 as KITTYHAWK; look him up), Yekaterina Furtseva (the most powerful woman in Russia; look her up), override (future false defector) Yuri Nosenko (look him up) and demand that Oswald not only be allowed to stay in the USSR, but NOT be recruited by the KGB?*

*As related to the CIA and the FBI by false defector Yuri Nosenko and other Kremlin-loyal KGB agents

[Jack Nessan]

I did edit it a bit, so maybe you should read it again.

But to answer your question, after he "tried" to kill himself.

Obviously.

Here it is again for you:

Are you sure that Oswald really tried to kill himself?

Did he write in his "Historic Diary" that he cut one wrist, or both?

What did the records at Boskin hospital say?

If "the Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia," why, AFTER OSWALD'S SUICIDE "ATTEMPT," did the mother-in-law of a future false-defector (KGB Colonel Igor Kochnov, secretly to the FBI in 1965 and "overtly" to the CIA in 1966 as KITTYHAWK; look him up), Yekaterina Furtseva (the most powerful woman in Russia; look her up), override (future false defector) Yuri Nosenko (look him up) and demand that Oswald not only be allowed to stay in the USSR, but NOT be recruited by the KGB?*

*As related to the CIA and the FBI by false defector Yuri Nosenko and other Kremlin-loyal KGB agents

What did he possibly have to offer them? He had to be the same person there that he was here. Desperately trying to be a big deal and just wasn't. He comes back to the US and no press meets him at the airport. He was viewed as nothing but an oddity. If he had gone to Cuba or back to Russia it would have been good riddance. I honestly cannot see the Russians considering him any kind of an asset at all. Just a liability.

[Tom Graves]

What did he possibly have to offer them? He had to be the same person there that he was here. Desperately trying to be a big deal and just wasn't. He comes back to the US and no press meets him at the airport. He was viewed as nothing but an oddity. If he had gone to Cuba or back to Russia it would have been good riddance. I honestly cannot see the Russians considering him any kind of an asset at all. Just a liability.

Who knows, given the fact that John N. Newman (author of the 1995/2008 book, "Oswald and the CIA") is probably right when he says in his 2022 book, "Uncovering Popov's Mole," that a KGB mole by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA?