Buell Wesley Frazier

[Michael Capasse]

Well that's not what Frazier said!

"I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all."

JohnM

Mr. BALL - You say he had the package under his arm when you saw him?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL - You mean one end of it under the armpit?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; he had it up just like you stick it right under your arm like that.

Mr. BALL - And he had the lower part--
Mr. FRAZIER - The other part with his right hand.

Mr. BALL - Right hand?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.

Mr. BALL - He carried it then parallel to his body?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right, straight up and down.

Representative FORD - Under his right arm?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes.

[John Mytton]

Mr. BALL - You say he had the package under his arm when you saw him?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL - You mean one end of it under the armpit?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; he had it up just like you stick it right under your arm like that.

Mr. BALL - And he had the lower part--
Mr. FRAZIER - The other part with his right hand.

Mr. BALL - Right hand?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.

Mr. BALL - He carried it then parallel to his body?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right, straight up and down.

Representative FORD - Under his right arm?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes.

You can repeat it a thousand times but it doesn't change the fact that he testified that "I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all."

JohnM

[Michael Capasse]

You can repeat it a thousand times but it doesn't change the fact that he testified that "I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all."

JohnM

Except it ended under his armpit, too small for the carcano. AND has said that for the last sixty + years.
The bag allegedly found upstairs was not what he saw. In fact, he demonstrated what he saw in a video. 

Mr. FRAZIER - I told them that as far as the length there, I told them that was entirely too long. "...I know that the bag wouldn't be that long. "

[John Mytton]

Except it ended under his armpit, too small for the carcano. AND has said that for the last sixty + years.
The bag allegedly found upstairs was not what he saw. In fact, he demonstrated what he saw in a video. 

Too bad the bag had Oswald's prints on it! Oops!



And in addition to Frazier saying "I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all.". Frazier also testified that he only saw the package from the back so obviously made some assumptions! In the following testimony Frazier is referring to the width of the bag but it doesn't change the fact that all of Frazier's assumptions came from a bag that he didn't pay too much attention to the way it was being carried, and also of vital importance is Oswald started his walk to the depository early and ended up 50 feet away and this is very relevant because Oswald always walked with Frazier. What was Oswald trying to hide?

Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, like I say now, now I couldn't see much of the bag from him walking in front of me. Now he could have had some of it sticking out in front of his hands because I didn't see it from the front, The only time I did see it was from the back, just a little strip running down from your arm...



BTW this means the photo where you show Frazier from the FRONT doesn't reflect reality and is very devious! Naughty naughty!

JohnM

[Jack Nessan]

Randle said: "Oswald gripped the bag in his right hand near the top. "It tapered like this as he hugged it in his hand." WCR page 133

"Mrs. Randle saw the bag fleetingly and her first remembrance is that it was held in Oswald's right hand "and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.'' WCR page 134

Your right Linnie May describes holding it with two hands again:

Randle said: "Oswald gripped the bag in his right hand near the top. "It tapered like this as he hugged it in his hand." WCR page 133

Gripping the bag and then hugging the bag are two different actions.

The bag then tapers and where he then is hugging it in his other hand.

Just like “and the bottom, he carried it this way,”

Pretty hard to escape Mrs Randle’s testimony. 

Mrs. RANDLE  .....“and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it”
Now explain how the bag could only be 27 inches long and LHO carried the bag in this manner.

[Tom Sorensen]

Mrs. Randle: "..., whom I learned later was Mr. Oswald, ..."

ROFL

[Tom Sorensen]

I have "blind faith" when the person who was present at the event with no apparent reason to lie about an innocuous event (i.e. he asked Oswald whether he carried his lunch that day and Oswald said no) confirms this happened.  How exactly could this be proven to your subjective satisfaction absent a time machine?  The real knee slapper is that you are relying on this same witness - who you appear to be suggesting lied about asking if Oswald had his lunch - for his estimate of the length of a bag that he hardly saw.  Riddle me this Batman, if Frazier was willing to lie about Oswald not carrying his lunch - again as you suggest he did - then why wouldn't he also confirm the more important fact that the bag was long enough to carry the rifle? HA HA HA.  I know logic and common sense are not among your strong points but this is actually embarrassing.

I have "blind faith"

Common among MAGA xxxxxxx.

when the person who was present at the event with no apparent reason to lie about an innocuous event

Apparent.

(i.e. he asked Oswald whether he carried his lunch that day and Oswald said no) confirms this happened.

Classic Richard Smith misuse of "confirmed". There is no other account of what took place inside that car.

How exactly could this be proven to your subjective satisfaction absent a time machine? 

It couldn't, even objectively, and you're still struggling to understand this. Wow!

The real knee slapper is that you are relying on this same witness

False, I'm not relying on Frazier.

- who you appear to be suggesting lied about asking if Oswald had his lunch -

False, it may appear so to you for whatever reason.

for his estimate of the length of a bag that he hardly saw. 

I haven't referred to his estimate—DOH.

Riddle me this Batman, if Frazier was willing to lie about Oswald not carrying his lunch - again as you suggest he did -

Again, I haven't suggested that.

then why wouldn't he also confirm the more important fact that the bag was long enough to carry the rifle?

Because the curtain rods would fit the shorter bag, cupped in Oswald's hand, as claimed by Frazier.

HA HA HA. 

Certainly, you failed again.

I know logic and common sense are not among your strong points but this is actually embarrassing.

Knowing how MAGA logic works, I wouldn't be too concerned about your opinion.

[Tom Graves]

If Buell Frazier was going to lie about the bag's existence, wouldn't he at least state that the bag was long enough to contain the rifle?  Why introduce a bag into the folklore but state that it was not long enough?

Maybe he intuited that it was a rifle and he was too embarrassed or felt culpable for not having told Mt. Truly or some other person of authority about it when they got to work.