Prayer Woman

[Alan Ford]

I'm pretty sure the man in black in Couch is not Bill Shelley but Danny Arce!

[Ray Mitcham]

Question!

Why is Prayer Man's LEFT elbow so much higher in Darnell than in Wiegman?

Can' t tell about his left elbow, Alan,  but his right arm appears to be in the same position in both photos with the white spot looking like  the reflection from silver bracelet.

[Alan Ford]

Can' t tell about his left elbow, Alan,  but his right arm appears to be in the same position in both photos with the white spot looking like  the reflection from silver bracelet.

Ray, both elbows are perceptibly lower in Wiegman than in Darnell, the left elbow more dramatically so! I doubt POV can account for this. Either Prayer Man is leaning forward in Wiegman or his arms are differently configured.



Try standing straight with hands in 'prayer' position and, without moving the rest of your body, lowering your left elbow as much as we see in Wiegman. But make sure to have an orthopedist's number handy first!!

[Ray Mitcham]

Ray, both elbows are perceptibly lower in Wiegman than in Darnell, the left elbow more dramatically so! I doubt POV can account for this. Either Prayer Man is leaning forward in Wiegman or his arms are differently configured.



Try standing straight with hands in 'prayer' position and, without moving the rest of your body, lowering your left elbow as much as we see in Wiegman. But make sure to have an orthopedist's number handy first!!

Despite trying very hard, I can't actually see the left elbow in the first frame despite adjusting the contrast etc.

[Alan Ford]

Despite trying very hard, I can't actually see the left elbow in the first frame despite adjusting the contrast etc.

Does this help, Ray?








Right hand moves a little east, right elbow comes up accordingly
+
Left arm goes into very different position
-------------if it's still his left elbow/forearm we're seeing in Darnell!


= PRAYER MAN W/ ARMS CROSSED + SOMETHING BEHIND PRAYERMAN?

[Alan Ford]

Friends! Take Prayer Man in Stancak's overhead, rotate him so he's facing forward, arms folded (& on first step down):



Is this what we're seeing in Darnell? Is the sun catching his left elbow?

[Larry Trotter]

What does that mean?
Why is it important to find out who the prayer person is?

As a reminder:

The PrayerPersonImage identity issue, as I recall, developed in about 2013, some 50 years, one-half century, after the 11/22/'63 assassination of USP JohnKennedySr, and critical wounding of TxG JohnConnallyJr in Dallas' DealeyPlaza, just after their vehicle passing the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building Elm St entrance portal at 12:30pm CST. Although notably some photographs were made, most of the pictures of the portal area just as the shooting had occurred are most likely film stills taken from a moving MotorcadeVehicle/CameraCar, by a hand held motion picture imaging camera.

The PrayerPersonImage is in my conclusion, along with others as well, representing a female then employed at the TSBD Bldg who was, as most of the bldg employees, outside during lunchtime to view the passing motorcade.

The PrayerPersonImage identity had not previously been an issue, as it had no bearing on the evidence relative to the shootings and assassination. That was until someone came along and decided that PrayerPersonImage represented a male, and therefor decided to reference PrayerPersonImage as PrayerMan apparently, because PrayerPersonImage had not, at least to someone, been positively identified.

But, there is more, as since not otherwise identified, someone decided that their PrayerManImageTheory included deceased accused assassination shooter, LeeHarveyOswald, since he also was then employed at the TSBD Bldg and had also not yet been positively identified, in their opinion, anywhere else as filmed at about 12:30pm,CST. Remembering of course, that LeeHarveyOswald was himself shot and killed by JacobLeonRubenstein, aka JackRuby, while in police custody on the morning of 11/24/'63, just two days after the fatal shooting of PresidentKennedy and critical wounding shooting of GovernorConnally. And, LeeHarveyOswald was also the primary suspect in the shooting death of DPD Officer JdTippit in Dallas' OakCliff section, about 45 minutes after the DealeyPlaza shootings.

So, the LeeHarveyOswald/PrayerManTheory was born. However, since a SecondFloorLunchRoomEncounter occurred with LeeHarveyOswald and TSBD BuildingSuperintendent RoyTruly along with DPD MotorcyclePatrolOfficer MarrionBaker at about 12:31pm/12:32pm CST 11/22/'63, a timing problem issue developed. OfficerBaker was a MotorcadeEscort, following several vehicles behind the Presidential Limousine, and he was approaching the TSBD Bldg just ahead of him as he rode along northbound on Houston St, when the shots were fired at the motorcade that had turned onto Elm St and was then westbound. When he reached Elm St, OfficerBaker parked his motorcycle and entered the TSBD Bldg to do a preliminary search, accompanied by RoyTruly. But, unable to locate a then viable suspect, and with other LawOfficers now searching the bldg, OfficerBaker rejoined the Motorcade that had gone to ParklandHospital. So, now for the LeeHarveyOswald/PrayerManTheory to work, the SecondFloorLunchRoomEncounterHoaxTheory was born, due to the timing of both situational events. However, the SecondFloor LunchRoomEncounter has reliable provable evidence that it occurred at about 90 to 120 seconds after the  shooting, and there is no reliable provable evidence indicative of it being a Hoax.

Now, with a history changing event like the LeeHarveyOswald/PrayerManTheory, stories can be told, and articles written, likely by professional story tellers and article writers. And possibly a book, or several books, can be written and then sold. Maybe even a movie or two can be made.

Testimony and sworn statements offer valid evidence that LeeHarveyOswald was not on the  landing or stairs as the filming took place. However, their own sworn statements and eyewitness testimony does place two otherwise unidentified known occupants, SarahStanton and PaulineSanders, on the landing/stairs at the time of the assassination/shooting. So, with questionable if any, Positive Image Identity produced by Image Viewing Alone, the said Eyewitness Testimony narrows the choices to SarahDeanStanton and PaulineRebmanSanders.

Notably, research has now developed evidence indicative of SarahStanton as being the person represented by Prayer PersonImage aka PrayerWomanImage. However, with the continued promotion of the unproven LeeHarveyOswald /PrayerManTheory, an ongoing effort for accuracy and true image identification continues the disputed evidence debate..

Although the LeeHarveyOswald/PrayerManTheory continues to be just that, a theory, said PrayerWomanImage identity conclusions are based on provable reliable indicative evidence.

For as it goes on...As for on it goes...

[Barry Pollard]

Barry,
Is it the angled shadow on the fourth riser from the bottom that you suspect might be a glitch? If that is so that angled shadow includes the column base, colored gray and simplified as a square block. It is of smaller size than the big block it sits on. Tomorrow I can make some simple graphics that breakup the riser shadows into their respective sources.
Thanks for questioning what looks odd 
 


James

Ahh, I see, thanks James,
is there any evidence you've seen in the images that this actually happened to the shadow on those steps?