Prayer Woman

[Barry Pollard]

Alan,
That looks like a great call, as the determined heights of Shelley and Arce will show.
...

I become more comfortable with it being Arce each time I see it.
Okay, what if the reason our guy slowed down was because he wanted to look at what he was walking into, slows down and goes up on his toes?
Can you picture him doing that and would it make any difference to his height,(to me it seems to be in that area where he stops, he grows)?

[Alan Ford]

Alan, do you think that Frazier is being hit by shadow only from above in Darnell or also from the west wall?
See anything significant?
Apologies if you've already said so.

Only from above, Barry---------------his body being turned southwest

[Alan Ford]

Alan,
That looks like a great call, as the determined heights of Shelley and Arce will show.

Using my 3D model I measured the apparent heights for Arce, Williams, Det Brown and Shelley against a perp-like-walk photo, with Lovelady popping in next to Shelley for the group photo (I don't know the photographer).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z6Pj2eBA5Oh6rhYaw_8uJKD2Y5pfv01-/view?usp=sharing


Results for their heights are as follows:

Arce      5'11?
Williams   6' 2.5?
Det Brown   5' 9?
Lovelady   5' 8.5? (from other sources)
Shelley   5'6?

The next exhibit compares the alleged Shelly against Arce, as seen a Mel Couch frame. To make these renderings I had to assume a curb  height of 9?. I also added a Lovelady stand-in, who's height does fit nicely with the alleged Lovelady. The two men in Couch could include Billy Lovelady, but not Bill Shelley. Danny Arce is a good fit as the taller man.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o8tFDj1oolbQUeuU95adDPFwo036myyu/view?usp=sharing

Great job, James!

[Alan Ford]

Roy Edward Lewis, a short black Depository employee, originally told investigators he was standing alone just inside the front entrance of the building when the shooting happened:



Question!

Is it possible Lewis was standing in the short space between the radiator and the glass and that this white X in Darnell is something he is holding?

[Duncan MacRae]

Great job, James!

Is that a great job done with, or without the subject wearing shoes or boots, or neither?
A tall man or woman could be in reality appear to be shorter than a shorter man or woman, depending on the footwear being worn on the day.
All results are inherantly flawed when trying to make height comparison differences between different individual subjects..

[Alan Ford]

Is that a great job done with, or without the subject wearing shoes or boots, or neither?
A tall man or woman could be in reality appear to be shorter than a shorter man or woman, depending on the footwear being worn on the day.
All results are inherantly flawed when trying to make height comparison differences between different individual subjects..

High heels on Shelley, Duncan? Really?

[Duncan MacRae]

High heels on Shelley, Duncan? Really?

You tell me, Alan.

[Alan Ford]

You tell me, Alan.

Er, no, Duncan. No high heels.

Besides, he would have been wearing the same shoes in Couch!