Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle

[Walt Cakebread]

Not sure about an actual measurement, but we have an estimate from Surrey's WC testimony.

Have you seen the photo??   It's definitely not four feet up from the floor.....

The bullet was fired from the top of a fence in the alley that was above (higher in elevation) than the  window sash, therefore it was traveling in a downward trajectory.  The window sash was about four feet up from the floor and the bullet would have been deflected DOWN by that sash ....

That bullet could only have come close to Walker's head  if he had been sitting on the floor.

[John Iacoletti]

The C2766 Carcano rifle was positively mailed by Klein's Sporting Goods of Chicago to Lee Harvey Oswald's P.O. Box in Dallas. Waldman Exhibit No. 7 proves that fact.

No it doesn't.  Waldman Exhibit No. 7 is an "order blank", not a shipping document.  And the microfilm from which that was allegedly printed is now "missing".  Darn the luck.

And the money order was stamped by Klein's. So Klein's was definitely PAID the $21.45 for the rifle (with William Waldman of Klein's verifying this fact in his WC testimony),

How do you know when it was stamped and by whom?  How did Waldman even know?

and Klein's did the processing on their end by depositing the "Hidell" money order into their bank account.

What is your evidence that the specific money order found in Virginia was deposited into Klein's bank account?

And that money order has Oswald's writing all over it.

"all over it".  LOL.  Even if it does, what connects this particular money order with Klein's order #270502 other than the amount?

So Oswald (aka "A. Hidell") definitely ordered that rifle. There is no REASONABLE doubt about that fact.

It has reasonable doubt "all over it".

[John Iacoletti]

He didn't just walk a couple of blocks to a bus.  He left within minutes.  Got a cab for the first time.  Not even pausing to ascertain what was going on.  Even after a police officer pulled a gun on him.  Oswald was in full flight murdering a police officer.  Flight doesn't mean he was running away in a panic as some CTers mistakenly suggest constitutes flight.  He was leaving the scene of a crime to avoid apprehension (i.e. flight).  No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it.  Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.  His prints are on the rifle.  It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine.  What evidence do you believe we should have that we do not under that circumstances that would satisfy you of Oswald's ownership of the MC rifle?

So much nonsense it is hard to know where to start.  Only in Smith-land is taking a cab for the first time evidence of murder.  That goes right up there with leaving a wedding ring behind and not being chatty with the cab driver.

He was leaving the scene of a crime to avoid apprehension (i.e. flight).

And you know this, how?

No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it.

And you know this, how?

  Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.

There are no documents that show this rifle was "sent to him".

  His prints are on the rifle.

You mean a partial palmprint attributed to him was found on an index card a week later.

  It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine.

It is difficult to understand why you think your hollow claims constitute evidence.

[John Iacoletti]

Now you're just being silly, Martin. As if you can't even imagine what the "implication" would be of LHO's buying and owning the weapon that killed the President.

There's no evidence that this weapon killed the president.  That's another unfounded assumption.

[John Iacoletti]

I already have.  It seemingly does not require any explanation but that presumes that you have a functioning brain which apparently is not the case.  Therein lies the problem.  All the explaining in the world can't fix that.

Meet the new forum.  Same as the old forum.

Richard still thinks that insults make his faulty arguments any less faulty.

[John Iacoletti]

Also, fragments found inside the limo were linked to C2766 to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.

...and you know that the fragments commonly known as CE567 and CE569 were "found inside the limo" ...how, exactly?  And if they were, you know that they were fired at 12:30 PM CST on November 22, 1963 in Dealey Plaza....how, exactly?

You know, the fragments that were so mangled that Robert Frazier had to line the marks up "in his mind" because they did not line up with a test bullet under the microscope.

[Gary Craig]

[John Iacoletti]

It should be noted that Waldman was a company vice-president with no personal involvement with the processing and shipping of orders.