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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2018, 09:27:53 PM »
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You are too dishonest or nutty to own up to claiming all evidence is faked or the product of lies.

Then stop claiming that I do, if you don't like being called a liar.

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  Rather, you do this in each individual instance which proves the point over and over again.

Really?  Then you should be able to quote these individual examples.  But you can't because you are Mr. Dishonest Strawman Argument.  What I point out in each case is that the evidence doesn't actually show what you claim it does.

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  And the evidence in this case has nothing to do with your nutty posts on an Internet forum.  I'm not sure why you are posting my point about Oswald being in flight after the assassination as proof of a lie unless you erroneously believe a criminal can only be in flight if he runs away in a panic.

Uh, because you claimed without any evidence that he left to avoid apprehension.  Do you know this because of your mad mindreading skilz, or are you stating your speculations as fact?  Again.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2018, 12:02:29 AM »
The order form depicts a 36" Carbine. The alleged murder weapon is a 40" model. There is NO evidence supporting the claim that LHO received a rifle at his P.O. Box. None.

If you disagree then cite it.


This isn't brain surgery, the warehouse received an order for C20-T750 and they sent out C20-T750. Case Closed!







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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2018, 12:58:01 AM »
What is "depicted" in the ad is a modified M91 Carcano (the original Carcano model) shortened from its 50.6" factory length to about 41".

What was described is a 36" Cacano that weighs 5.5 lbs. Like the model in the illustration, it also was a type of Carcano the company wasn't shipping. What they were shipping were 40" Carcano, which ads following this one described as that length (and a few ads later on, the weight was corrected).

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2018, 01:20:16 AM »
What is "depicted" in the ad is a modified M91 Carcano (the original Carcano model) shortened from its 50.6" factory length to about 41".

What was described is a 36" Cacano that weighs 5.5 lbs. Like the model in the illustration, it also was a type of Carcano the company wasn't shipping. What they were shipping were 40" Carcano, which ads following this one described as that length (and a few ads later on, the weight was corrected).



I don't think that these cheap Italian Carcanos were much of a priority for Kleins considering the profit margin and they probably made more money on the scopes and ammo.
The following ads were both from April 1963 gun magazines and both show the same serial number C20-T750 but have differing weights and lengths but realistically from Kleins POV both rifles took the same ammo and the 40 inch was bonus so what's the problem?, it was a win win situation! It's not like a pair of shoes which must be an exact size, in the Carcano 6.5mm World it was one size fits all.



It seems that Oswald made his paper bag assuming that he received the 36 inch rifle, the look on Oswald's face when he realized his 38 inch bag wouldn't fit his 40 inch rifle would have been priceless! Hahaha!





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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2018, 02:29:45 AM »

You still have not cited evidence showing that LHO ever received a rifle at his P.O. Box.





Oswald was photographed with C2766.





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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2018, 02:44:26 AM »
That is not evidence that a rifle was received at his P.O. Box. You're sunk.


Yeah whatever;

Oswald ordered a Carcano Rifle from Kleins.
Oswald was sent a Carcano(C2766) from Kleins.
Oswald was photographed with a Carcano(C2766).
Oswald's rifle was discovered on the 6th floor at about the same time Oswald was on the run after killing a Police Officer.



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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2018, 02:54:42 AM »
There was no "T" in the Field & Stream ad in evidence. Read my post as it lays all this out. Bottom line -- Klein's had NO 40" models to ship on purpose or by accident in March 1963.



Huh? Kleins received C2766 in February.





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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2018, 03:45:46 AM »
If you actually did any research instead of simply regurgitating what you were told you would realize that C2766 tied to a 36" Carbine. I will say it again since you keep ignoring it -- Klein's did not sell 40" models until April.




The evidence which you have not yet refuted can be traced from Crescent Firearms through to Kleins then on to Oswald and the Depository.













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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2018, 03:45:46 AM »