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Offline John Anderson

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #120 on: January 18, 2018, 03:23:28 PM »
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Yeah but when I read all that, which I've read before I still don't see evidence of a second shooter. Probes were used in the back wound, no they weren't, a finger was used. The autopsy is a mess, notes are a mess and recollections of those doing the autopsy are a mess. It's all a mess. The whole case is a mess. The USA in 1963 seems to have been in the the same mess as Soviet Russia.

I'm not claiming my country was any better.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #121 on: January 18, 2018, 07:07:42 PM »
Nobody ducks and runs from you.  You have been beat over the head with evidence of Oswald's guilt in the death of Tippit.  You just ignore it and later claim that that no one ever posts evidence of Oswald's guilt.

And by "evidence of Oswald's guilt in the death of Tippit", Bill Brown means an identification by an "utter screwball" in an unfair lineup who had to be asked 6 times if she recognized anybody, shells not even found by law enforcement at the crime scene (which didn't match in number the brands of the slugs in Tippit) some with disappearing initials, and a gun that Gerald Hill pulled out of his pocket 2 hours after Oswald was arrested without any probable cause.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #122 on: January 18, 2018, 07:23:58 PM »
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Another lame excuse. "I just ignore it." Sure. IF it was solid evidence it wouldn't matter what I did, but it isn't. There isn't a shred of solid evidence showing that LHO killed JDT in the twenty-six volumes. I know because I, unlike you, have studied them for years.

LNers ignore the twenty-six volumes because they do NOT support the claims of the WCR that they espouse constantly.

If you have proof that anyone but the shooter knew an attempt was to be made on Kennedy that day, by all means do post it.

Well?
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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #123 on: January 18, 2018, 08:40:14 PM »
And by "evidence of Oswald's guilt in the death of Tippit", Bill Brown means an identification by an "utter screwball" in an unfair lineup who had to be asked 6 times if she recognized anybody, shells not even found by law enforcement at the crime scene (which didn't match in number the brands of the slugs in Tippit) some with disappearing initials, and a gun that Gerald Hill pulled out of his pocket 2 hours after Oswald was arrested without any probable cause.

I don't need Helen Markham.  Oswald is a cop-killer; no need to rely on Markham at all.

Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.  The chain of custody for these two shells is perfectly intact.  These shells are evidence.  They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.  Whether you like it or not, these shells would be used to convict Oswald.

Unless, of course, you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells aren't authentic.  Do you?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #124 on: January 18, 2018, 11:16:38 PM »
I don't need Helen Markham.  Oswald is a cop-killer; no need to rely on Markham at all.

Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.  The chain of custody for these two shells is perfectly intact.  These shells are evidence.  They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.  Whether you like it or not, these shells would be used to convict Oswald.

Unless, of course, you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells aren't authentic.  Do you?

Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.

Since the S&W revolver dumps all spent shells at the same time.....How do you explain the killer taking one spent shell at a time from the gun he was unloading?  The descriptions given by four different witnesses indicate the killer was NOT using a S&W revolver.

 They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.

Can you prove that the shells that were turned over to the Warren Commission are the same shells that were found at the scene?.....How do you account for the absence of the initials Officer Poe and Detective Pete Barnes ?

Do you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells are authentic.  Do you?

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #126 on: January 18, 2018, 11:33:35 PM »




All this proves is that when they had the opportunity to tamper with the evidence against Oswald none of it was altered, which unfortunately for you has a devastating effect on your client, sorry about that. :'(



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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #127 on: January 19, 2018, 12:19:23 AM »
I don't need Helen Markham.  Oswald is a cop-killer; no need to rely on Markham at all.

No need to rely on the only person who witnessed the crime?

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Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.  The chain of custody for these two shells is perfectly intact.  These shells are evidence.

Prove those shells were found at the crime scene.  Or even the same ones found by the Davises.

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  They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.

Prove that revolver was taken from Oswald.

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  Whether you like it or not, these shells would be used to convict Oswald.

That's easy for you to say.

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Unless, of course, you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells aren't authentic.  Do you?

You can't demonstrate their provenance.  That's enough.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #127 on: January 19, 2018, 12:19:23 AM »