Where is Dan Rather?

[Steve Barber]

There have been questions over the years whether or not Dan Rather was waiting on the other side of the triple underpass in Dallas for a film pickup tossed from JFK's motorcade in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. If he indeed was, would he be standing on the left side of this photo?

   Hi Bruce.  First of all, welcome to the forum! 

Secondly, since no one addressed your question, I'll take a shot at it. 

 I have always wondered where Rather was on the western side of the triple underpass, and, it may be that he is among the people on the left side of the photograph, or, he may be standing (out of frame) on the left side of the picture. We can't make out any detail, unfortunately, but since there are several people gathered on the west side of the underpass, he may very well be among the crowds gathered there. 

[Matt Grantham]

 I am not sure of the name of test that matches the striation patterns that are imparted to all bullets being fired from a singular gun, and have never heard whether that was actually done CE 399, but there is no way you can do that test on small fragments So what test are you referring to? Has someone been listening to the worlds most neurotic person Ken Rahn again?

[Tim Nickerson]

The CBS demonstration only showed one person able to accomplish the feat so not much of confirmation Yes you do not want people with a bias if you can avoid it, but surely you are not going to suggest the CBS folks weren't trying  It seems the LN's only like experiments with melons, questionable recreations of simulated tissue etc , are the only preferable kinds of demonstration that are supposed to prove something hopefully scientist will not begin to go with your theorem of just because it has never been done doesn't mean it cannot happen someday

Only one person eh? What exactly was the feat that the CBS demonstration was attempting to accomplish?

[Tim Nickerson]

I am not sure of the name of test that matches the striation patterns that are imparted to all bullets being fired from a singular gun, and have never heard whether that was actually done CE 399, but there is no way you can do that test on small fragments So what test are you referring to? Has someone been listening to the worlds most neurotic person Ken Rahn again?

Striation pattern comparison was used to match CE 399 with Oswald's rifle. The same goes for the two large fragments found in the limo.

[Matt Grantham]

Striation pattern comparison was used to match CE 399 with Oswald's rifle. The same goes for the two large fragments found in the limo.

By Whom? What size were those fragments? At the MLK assassination the bullet recovered from the body was considered two deformed to test and it was basically an entire bullet

[Tim Nickerson]

By Whom?

FBI SA Robert Frazier, among others.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazr1.htm

What size were those fragments?

https://www.maryferrell.org/photos.html?set=NARA-FRAGMENTS

There are nine photos in total.

At the MLK assassination the bullet recovered from the body was considered two deformed to test and it was basically an entire bullet

Similar to the MLK assassination bullet, the Walker bullet was too mutilated to be able to be matched to a rifle.

"Mr. FRAZIER - The bullet, 573, had what appeared to be normal-depth grooves. However, this bullet is completely flattened due to hitting a plaster or cement or other hard material on one side, and the opposite side, as a result of the flattening--has assumed a concave appearance, which has stretched the surface in various places and changes its overall appearance that is the basis for actually having to state that there were not enough unmutilated marks for identification purposes on it."

[Matt Grantham]

 Thanks for that Tim Do you know if they fired some bullets from other Manlichers to establish the variation in striation patterns? Obviously there is only a very small portion of striation patterns from 569 compared to a relatively intact bullet I did not see anyone try to qualify this difference Just Frazier's conclusion  And not bring the MLK shooting in too much but the undamaged portion of the bullet from that shooting is much larger and a renowned expert testified that it should have been examined as evidence that the bullet came from Ray's gun We need some consistency from government agencies in they want credinility

 And just to add top the obvious the chain of custody of both the ballistics is in doubt

[Tim Nickerson]

Thanks for that Tim Do you know if they fired some bullets from other Manlichers to establish the variation in striation patterns? Obviously there is only a very small portion of striation patterns from 569 compared to a relatively intact bullet I did not see anyone try to qualify this difference Just Frazier's conclusion  And not bring the MLK shooting in too much but the undamaged portion of the bullet from that shooting is much larger and a renowned expert testified that it should have been examined as evidence that the bullet came from Ray's gun We need some consistency from government agencies in they want credinility

 And just to add top the obvious the chain of custody of both the ballistics is in doubt

Matt, I don't know if they test fired with other Carcanos to establish variations in striation patterns or not. Frazier's conclusion was not his alone. His two fellow Lab specialists, Cunningham and Killion, confirmed his findings. Also, the WC had the bullet and fragments examined by Joseph Nicol of the Illinois Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation. He positively matched CE-399, CE-567, and CE-569 to Oswald's rifle.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/nicol.htm

The chains of custody for the three items are not really in doubt. But I'm curious to know what you think it would mean if they were in doubt.