Non problematic evidence?

[John Iacoletti]

Gosh, if only there was something to distinguish Oswald from other men who may have left their rings at home that day. What could it be?

Congratulations.  You've just demonstrated that the wedding ring is irrelevant.  If it's about other "evidence" then the ring has nothing to do with it.

Something about, I don't know, working in the building where a shooter shot JFK?

So did scores of other people.  Were any of them even asked about their wedding rings?

Maybe, perhaps, something about carrying a large package into the building?

You mean the package that was too short to hold the alleged murder weapon?  I suspect lots of employees carried in packages that were too short to hold the alleged murder weapon.

Something about leaving nearly all of his money behind that day?

You mean the way he left money for Marina every time he visited?

Something about holding radical anti-US views?

Something about admiring JFK and thinking he was doing a very good job.

No, we're supposed to ignore all of that and just think about the ring.

Why wouldn't we ignore all that?  It's not evidence of anything.

[John Iacoletti]

And, if CE 399 isn't the bullet that went through JFK, then where IS that bullet? Did it disappear?

Where is the bullet from the "first missed shot"?  Did it disappear?

[John Iacoletti]

Not too high, not if any of you were in any way reasonable, even in the slightest.

And by "reasonable", Bill means agreeing with his unsubstantiated conclusion.

[Matt Grantham]

As JFK said, if someone wanted to shoot him with a rifle from a tall building there was nothing anyone could do about it. That is unless the President would stop traveling in an open limo; which is what happened after the assassination.

Did the SS perform poorly? Yes, it certainly appears so but I'm not sure they could have stopped Oswald - who I think shot JFK - from killing the president.

As to my questions: It's pretty obvious - at least to me - that it would be impossible to plant a bullet BEFORE the actual event occurred. How could any "planters" foresee what happened? How could they be sure that the bullet they planted wouldn't be an extra one, one that would show their conspiracy? How could they know that the bullet that did hit JFK didn't fragment so that their phony bullet would expose their acts?

Answer: they couldn't.

Besides, the bullet that exited JFK's throat/neck had to go somewhere. Where did it go?

 If I understand you believe it would impossible to coordinate in advance what type of bullet would be used? Seems like that would be near the top of planning

[John Mytton]

Congratulations.  You've just demonstrated that the wedding ring is irrelevant.  If it's about other "evidence" then the ring has nothing to do with it.

So did scores of other people.  Were any of them even asked about their wedding rings?

You mean the package that was too short to hold the alleged murder weapon?  I suspect lots of employees carried in packages that were too short to hold the alleged murder weapon.

You mean the way he left money for Marina every time he visited?

Something about admiring JFK and thinking he was doing a very good job.

Why wouldn't we ignore all that?  It's not evidence of anything.

So did scores of other people.  Were any of them even asked about their wedding rings?

Oswald didn't merely forget his Wedding Ring but with powerful emotional symbolism left his Wedding Ring in Marina's family heirloom.

You mean the package that was too short to hold the alleged murder weapon?

What, the package that Frazier never payed specific attention to, that package?

I suspect lots of employees carried in packages that were too short to hold the alleged murder weapon.

Sure but why would Oswald LIE about the contents of the package?, Oswald told Frazier the long package contained curtain rods but Oswald told the Dallas Police that Frazier was mistaken and that he only had sandwiches.
And don't forget Oswald also said he carried his lunch on his lap, another LIE!
Btw while in custody Oswald's LIES whenever the rifle came up were extremely incriminating;
1. Lying about buying, possessing and being seen using the murder weapon.
2. Lying about his package.
3. Lying about where he put his package.
4. Lying about the backyard photos.
5. Lying about never living at Neeley Street.
6. etc etc

You mean the way he left money for Marina every time he visited?

Oswald made 50 bucks a week gross then after taxes and rent and bus rides and food he was left with less, so to save $170 Oswald had to have saved for at least a month but in that time he visited Marina at least twice, did he leave any substantial money behind or did he seemingly out of character just happen to leave virtually all his money the night before the assassination?
And hypothetically if Oswald believed his marriage was over by leaving his ring in Marina's cup then why would he leave most of his money and only leave himself with a pocket of change and a five dollar note?

Something about admiring JFK...

Are you sure? Oswald admired Kennedy so much that while Oswald's hero was passing by the building, Oswald steadfastly refused to witness what would surely be a once in a lifetime opportunity and instead just sat in the lunchroom? LOL!



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[Jerry Freeman]

 

powerful emotional symbolism

Oh good grief!

Let's just shut our ears to the truth...that will make it all go away.

[John Iacoletti]

Oswald didn't merely forget his Wedding Ring but with powerful emotional symbolism left his Wedding Ring in Marina's family heirloom.

Mytton's back in mindreader mode again.  LOL.

What, the package that Frazier never payed specific attention to, that package?

Frazier certainly saw how much of the backseat the package took up and saw it between Oswald's palm and armpit.

Sure but why would Oswald LIE about the contents of the package?, Oswald told Frazier the long package contained curtain rods but Oswald told the Dallas Police that Frazier was mistaken and that he only had sandwiches.
And don't forget Oswald also said he carried his lunch on his lap, another LIE!
Btw while in custody Oswald's LIES whenever the rifle came up were extremely incriminating;
1. Lying about buying, possessing and being seen using the murder weapon.
2. Lying about his package.
3. Lying about where he put his package.
4. Lying about the backyard photos.
5. Lying about never living at Neeley Street.
6. etc etc

You haven't demonstrated that he lied about anything.  Just because you happen to believe something else was true, doesn't make something a lie.

And hypothetically if Oswald believed his marriage was over by leaving his ring in Marina's cup then why would he leave most of his money and only leave himself with a pocket of change and a five dollar note?

Seriously?  Maybe he wanted his kids to be taken care of?

Are you sure? Oswald admired Kennedy so much that while Oswald's hero was passing by the building, Oswald steadfastly refused to witness what would surely be a once in a lifetime opportunity and instead just sat in the lunchroom? LOL!

Are you LOLing at your own silly argument?  Do you really thing there are no gradations of admiration between wanting to murder someone and standing outside hoping to get a glimpse of him driving by in a car?

[Martin Weidmann]

Well, there we have it!

Not one LN can name a single piece of physical evidence against Oswald that isn't problematic. What better way to demonstrate that the case against Oswald is based on mere assumptions rather than actual evidence?