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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Where does it say that high-powered rounds will deflect upwards like that?

The Carcano is medium powered, not high powered. Where does it say that rifle-fired bullets will not "deflect" upward like that? Intact bullets will assume curved paths in ballistics gelatin. Deformed bullets will begin curving sooner and to a larger degree.

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And also why are there no bullet fragments in that area of the head on the x-rays?

"Many of the fragments deposited in the president's brain were flushed out, along with the brain tissue, as the large amount of blood flowed out of the explosive wound in the head, in the car and at Parkland. It is evidently some of these that were deposited on the bone flaps by clotting blood that show as a "trail" of fragments near the top of the lateral view. This "trail" does not show on the frontal view, and is much higher than the FPP's reconstructed trajectory. In fact, at the apparent location of these fragments there was no brain matter in which the fragments could be embedded."- The JFK Myths: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination, By Larry Sturdivan, Page 201.

https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Myths-Scientific-Investigation-Assassination/dp/1557788472

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And why no severe damage to the cerebellum?

Why should there be severe damage to the cerebellum?

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Offline Micah Mileto

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The Carcano is medium powered, not high powered. Where does it say that rifle-fired bullets will not "deflect" upward like that? Intact bullets will assume curved paths in ballistics gelatin. Deformed bullets will begin curving sooner and to a larger degree.

What ballistics tests show that such a round will deflect sharply upwards upon encountering one layer of skull bone? Here is the Tracking Oswald part 5 ballistics dummy test:



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"Many of the fragments deposited in the president's brain were flushed out, along with the brain tissue, as the large amount of blood flowed out of the explosive wound in the head, in the car and at Parkland. It is evidently some of these that were deposited on the bone flaps by clotting blood that show as a "trail" of fragments near the top of the lateral view. This "trail" does not show on the frontal view, and is much higher than the FPP's reconstructed trajectory. In fact, at the apparent location of these fragments there was no brain matter in which the fragments could be embedded."- The JFK Myths: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination, By Larry Sturdivan, Page 201.

https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Myths-Scientific-Investigation-Assassination/dp/1557788472

What? No, fragments deposited at the base of the head could not have "leaked out" from a hole in the parietal bone.

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Why should there be severe damage to the cerebellum?

Because severe damage to the cerebellum would be an inevitable obstacle for a straight-moving bullet. Do you think a 6.5 round deflected sharply upwards as soon as it got past a single layer of skull?

P.S. do you have a mobi file of JFK Myth to share?

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https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Medical_Evidence.html
https://www.maryferrell.org/php/showlist.php?docset=1019

The EOP entrance doesn't jibe with the official LN did it narrative.

Just like the photo of the top of JFK's right lung, which would have shown the direction and path of the SBT,
is no longer in the archives, the photos of the entrance wound on JFK's skull bone, the ones that would have shown the direction of the missile, are also no longer in the archive.

The location of the entrance of both wounds was altered to fit the LN did it from the 6th floor SE corner TSBD.

Jerry Ford took care of the SBT entrance wound during the WC.

The Clark Panel moved the fatal skull wound entrance 4 inches.
















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Offline Gary Craig

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The Carcano is medium powered, not high powered. Where does it say that rifle-fired bullets will not "deflect" upward like that? Intact bullets will assume curved paths in ballistics gelatin. Deformed bullets will begin curving sooner and to a larger degree.

"Many of the fragments deposited in the president's brain were flushed out, along with the brain tissue, as the large amount of blood flowed out of the explosive wound in the head, in the car and at Parkland. It is evidently some of these that were deposited on the bone flaps by clotting blood that show as a "trail" of fragments near the top of the lateral view. This "trail" does not show on the frontal view, and is much higher than the FPP's reconstructed trajectory. In fact, at the apparent location of these fragments there was no brain matter in which the fragments could be embedded."- The JFK Myths: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination, By Larry Sturdivan, Page 201.

https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Myths-Scientific-Investigation-Assassination/dp/1557788472

Why should there be severe damage to the cerebellum?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=625#relPageId=4&tab=page

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What ballistics tests show that such a round will deflect sharply upwards upon encountering one layer of skull bone? Here is the Tracking Oswald part 5 ballistics dummy test:



What? No, fragments deposited at the base of the head could not have "leaked out" from a hole in the parietal bone.

Because severe damage to the cerebellum would be an inevitable obstacle for a straight-moving bullet. Do you think a 6.5 round deflected sharply upwards as soon as it got past a single layer of skull?

P.S. do you have a mobi file of JFK Myth to share?

Micah, I will respond properly when I have the time. It may not be until the weekend.

I don't have a digital file of JFK Myths. Sorry. Amazon Canada has a kindle version for $10 Cad.

https://www.amazon.ca/JFK-Myths-Scientific-Investigation-Assassination-ebook/dp/B0054R5C52

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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What ballistics tests show that such a round will deflect sharply upwards upon encountering one layer of skull bone? Here is the Tracking Oswald part 5 ballistics dummy test:


The round didn't deflect sharply upwards upon encountering one layer of skull bone. It "deflected" upward after encountering a layer of skull bone. The encounter with the skull bone had deformed it to such a degree that upon entering the brain it developed a lift that curved its trajectory upward.

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What? No, fragments deposited at the base of the head could not have "leaked out" from a hole in the parietal bone.

Why not? Fragments would have also exited along with brain matter at the time of the head "explosion"

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Because severe damage to the cerebellum would be an inevitable obstacle for a straight-moving bullet. Do you think a 6.5 round deflected sharply upwards as soon as it got past a single layer of skull?

When it passed through the skull, the bullet was no longer moving in a straight line trajectory. The cerebellum was far enough below the point of entry to escape extensive damage from the deformed bullet as it passed above on its curved trajectory.

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Notice how I provided actual experimental evidence to show that such a shot entering near the EOP could not exit the parietal area and still be consistent with the rest of the of the official evidence. Could we at least both agree that a bullet traveling close to the speed of LIGHT couldn't deflect upwards upon encountering one layer of skull bone?

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Notice how I provided actual experimental evidence to show that such a shot entering near the EOP could not exit the parietal area and still be consistent with the rest of the of the official evidence.

Micah, Could you provide that actual experimental evidence so that I can see it?

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Could we at least both agree that a bullet traveling close to the speed of LIGHT couldn't deflect upwards upon encountering one layer of skull bone?

Can we agree? No can do. "Bullets traveling close to the speed of light" is above my pay grade.

There was a young lady named Bright
Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day
In a relative way
And returned on the previous night

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