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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1696 on: October 25, 2019, 04:18:13 PM »
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Then, unlike the voice timestamp recordings, the rest of your rant is meaningless.

So, you are unable to deal honestly with the information I provided.... It's duly noted.

What is actually meaningless is the opinion of a biased person who is unwilling to discuss facts placed before him because he knows he can not counter them!

I dealt with it honestly.

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« Reply #1697 on: October 25, 2019, 04:19:22 PM »
On a scale of 1 to ten of time accuracy I'd give the DPD dispatchers a 9 because time was integral to the job.

Of course you would.

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Bowleys watch was never tested or calibrated.

No evidence that the various clocks at the police station were either.

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And as for the DOA time, that's an estimate of the actual time of death not the time the ambulance arrives at the hospital.

"Dr. Richard Liguori pronounced DOA @ 1:15p.m."

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No, you don't get to pick and choose, advanced statistical analysis says something completely different, the mean time average of the time of Tippit's death was closer to 1:15!

"Advanced statistical analysis".  LOL.

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Along with the reasonably accurate DPD times we have these times from witnesses which are closer to 1:30 and when all the times are plotted the median is closer to 1:15.

How do you know how much time elapsed between Tippit's shooting and when Mary Brock saw her white male walk past?

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1698 on: October 25, 2019, 04:25:02 PM »
Don't kid yourself, all you people think you are defending Oswald to some sort of self perceived legal standard, it's truly hilarious.

No, actually you're prosecuting Oswald based on the standard that if you call it "Oswald's rifle" it somehow becomes Oswald's rifle.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1699 on: October 25, 2019, 04:27:08 PM »
There is only 1 argument which you yourself exposed, that even the DPD clocks which rely on accuracy and were regularly calibrated could be wrong therefore how can we trust any timepiece? You've dug yourself a deep inescapable hole but keep digging because watching you self destruct is absolutely fascinating.

Evidence, please, that the DPD clocks were "regularly calibrated" and to what standard.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1700 on: October 25, 2019, 04:28:41 PM »
That's a call for speculation and doesn't mean much.

I could just as easily say T.F. Bowley was picking up his daughter from school.  It was an important aspect of his job as a parent to be able to pinpoint the time that she was ready to be picked up so as not to leave her unattended.  Does it seem very likely that he would let his wristwatch be very far off the official time?

Hmm, so that's what Martin Weidmann has been doing, speculating? Somebody ought to tell him this, don't you think?

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« Reply #1701 on: October 25, 2019, 04:29:13 PM »
Btw The person who had the most reason to be aware of the time is Scoggins who was on his lunch break and if he was anything like me, "the time on your lunch break feels like 10 x the time of actually working"

LOL.  There's some "advanced statistical analysis" for ya.

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« Reply #1702 on: October 25, 2019, 04:43:24 PM »
You're missing the point, a huge part of your evidence relies on a "screwball" who said she was catching a 1:12 bus at 1:15 and an an unsynchronised clock.

If she was catching a 1:12 bus, that's even less reason to believe that she was still standing at 10th & Patton at 1:15.  Nice job.

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DOA doesn't mean the time the ambulance arrives.

What in your world does the "A" in "DOA" stand for?

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I presented a ton of eyewitnesses who all say the time was closer to 1:30, which must be equally analysed.

"A ton".  LOL.

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Oswald was positively identified with a gun at the scene of the crime.

Unfair, biased lineups are unreliable.

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Oswald's PO Box received a revolver,

False.

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the same revolver he was arrested with.

False.

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Oswald dropped shells at the scene.

Unproven.

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The shells that were seen dropped by Oswald were an exclusive match to the revolver he was arrested with.

Correction:  shells in evidence that cannot be proven to have come from the scene or touched by Oswald were matched to a revolver that Gerald Hill pulled out of his own pocket at the police station.

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Nicol provided photographic evidence that one bullet in Tippit came from Oswald's revolver.

Which was disputed by 7 other firearms experts for the WC and HSCA.

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The jacket Oswald was wearing was recovered from a carpark he was seen entering.

Which can't be proven to have been Oswald's, but even if it is, how is it evidence of anything?

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Oswald appeared to hide outside a shoe store.

LOL

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Oswald waited for the Police car to move away before he continued.

Speculation.

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Oswald snuck into a theatre.

Speculation.

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Oswald tried to kill more police.

Speculation.

Nice illustration of how you think rhetoric passes for evidence.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1703 on: October 25, 2019, 04:44:31 PM »
Jackson didn't know that Tippit was between Marsalis and Beckley... until the concerned citizen told him that an officer had been shot at a location that was between Marsalis and Beckley.

So we're back to the question of how Jackson knew it was Tippit before he was informed of the car number.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1703 on: October 25, 2019, 04:44:31 PM »