Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Bill Brown]

Hilarious... Would that be when he had the "coffee break" I previously discussed with Bill Brown. "A couple of minutes"... really? You might want to read his testimony again.

Translation for "coffee break":  Martin was unaware that Callaway helped load the body into the ambulance BEFORE reporting the shooting on the patrol car radio to the police dispatcher. 

[Bill Brown]

Of course you are running. In the interview you claimed "McWatters testified that Oswald got on the bus".

That was a lie, as McWatters never testified anything of the kind.

Or can you show me in his testimony where he said it?

Again, I'm not running from anything.  What don't you understand about I have already explained this; so have several other members.  Scroll back about thirty pages for a look.

[Martin Weidmann]

Why not critique the evidence being provided rather than some meaningless comment?

When I do, you ignore it. Typical LN strategy

Just a few posts earlier I stated that there was something off about the time calls on the DPD tapes and you agreed!
I've not changed my mind about it, it's more like you've got a really bad memory

So why rely on the time calls when you think there is something off with the time calls?

Are you calling Markham a liar?
Are you saying she lied about catching the 1;15 PM bus to work. Her regular bus? Is that what you're saying?
What exactly are you saying?

Why would I call Markham a liar?

Markham had no reason to lie and said in her testimony that she left he home "a little after 1"
She also said that it was around 1:06 or 1:07 when she was walking from 9th street to 10th street
The FBI timed the distance of that one block walk and determined it took 2,5 minutes

The WC lawyer asked her when she normally got her regular bus to work and she answered at 1:15
The FBI determined that the bus schedule for her bus had stops at Jefferson at 1:12 and 1:22
Obviously, this was just the official schedule and not taking in account traffic.

If Markham left her house at "a little after 1" and was walking at 1:06/1:07 she would have arrived at the intersection of 10th and Patton at roughly 1:09 with only another block (2,5 minutes) to walk to get to the bus stop on Jefferson.

If Tippit was killed at 1:16 (according to the WC) or at 1:14 according to Dale Myers, what the hell was Markham still doing at the corner at 10th/Patton. My point is that by then she would have been at Jefferson boarding her bus.

Now, how about some corrobaration?

Bowley, who also had no reason to lie, said in his affidavit that he was picking up his daughter from school (at 12:55) and then went to pick up his wife from work (near the crime scene). He also said that when he arrived at 10th street he saw something had happened, so he parked a distance away so his daughter would not see. He said he looked at his clock and it said 1:10 PM. Now, can watches be wrong? Sure they can, but in this case wouldn't Bowley have noticed when he was late picking up his 12 year old daughter?  Anyway, the driving distance between the school and 10th/Patton is 13 to 14 minutes (I have driven and timed it) which would have gotten him to the Tippit scene at around 1:10 PM

Markham arrived just prior to Tippit being shot and Bowley arrived just after he was shot. What are the chances that both times are wrong by about 5 minutes?

But wait, there's more. When you follow the sequence of events starting with Tippit being killed at around 1:09 and you follow the sequence of events as provided by the corrected DPD time calls you end up with the ambulance arriving at the Methodist Hospital at 1:15 which is exactly the time the authorisation for autopsy states and detective Davenport, who had no reason to lie, confirms it twice in offical documents.

With all this in mind, why would any reasonable person still conclude that the DPD time stamps provide the only accurate time line?

[Martin Weidmann]

Translation for "coffee break":  Martin was unaware that Callaway helped load the body into the ambulance BEFORE reporting the shooting on the patrol car radio to the police dispatcher.

Stop with the telegram style replies and start addressing the massive problems I have outlined with your time line.

Or keep on running... your choice

[Martin Weidmann]

Again, I'm not running from anything.  What don't you understand about I have already explained this; so have several other members.  Scroll back about thirty pages for a look.

Are you a robot?

I don't want to hear your explanation or opinion. I want you to show me where McWatters said it in his testimony.

And there's a lot more I want you to explain, but I somehow think I will never get those explanations, which only exposes the weakness of your case.

[Martin Weidmann]

Translation for "coffee break":  Martin was unaware that Callaway helped load the body into the ambulance BEFORE reporting the shooting on the patrol car radio to the police dispatcher.

Martin "wasn't aware" that Callaway helped load Tippit's body into the ambulance before he made his radio call because it never happened. You made it up to score a point. There is not a shred of evidence for it and it doesn't make sense.

The time has long passed that I would accept something at face value because Bill Brown said so.

[Bill Brown]

Martin "wasn't aware" that Callaway helped load Tippit's body into the ambulance before he made his radio call because it never happened. You made it up to score a point. There is not a shred of evidence for it and it doesn't make sense.

The time has long passed that I would accept something at face value because Bill Brown said so.

A fact is still a fact whether you've accepted it or not.  Callaway helped load the body and THEN, as the ambulance pulled away, got on the radio to report the incident.  Just a simple act of helping load the body into the ambulance, no "coffee break" required.  Like I said before, I don't expect you to know these things.  No biggie.

[Martin Weidmann]

A fact is still a fact whether you've accepted it or not.  Callaway helped load the body and THEN, as the ambulance pulled away, got on the radio to report the incident.  Just a simple act of helping load the body into the ambulance, no "coffee break" required.  Like I said before, I don't expect you to know these things.  No biggie.

A fact is still a fact whether you've accepted it or not.

Hilarious. Bill Brown calling it a fact doesn't mean it is a fact. It only means that Brown is dishonest as per usual.

For this so-called "fact" to be correct, Callaway needs to be mistaken in his testimony about the sequence of events.

Seems to be standard LN strategy. If a witness says something that does not compute with their made up narrative that witness is "mistaken".