Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Bill Brown]

“There is no way to connect "police time" with "real time."

Bowles is referring to the dispatcher set-up when he is making this statement but I don't agree with it as some kind of fundamental pronouncement.
A thought experiment - imagine an officer was stood next to a reliable time source (let's say the Hertz clock on top of the TSBD). The dispatcher asks the officer what time the Hertz clock says and compares it to his own clock. In this way "real" time and "police" time have been connected.
Can this thought experiment be reproduced in reality?
The answer is "Yes".



The above picture is taken seconds after the assassination. The Hertz clock can be clearly seen showing 12:30.

When we look at the DPD tape transcripts we see that the very first call after the 12:30 timestamp is Chief Curry stating:

“Go to the hospital - Parkland Hospital. Have them stand by.”

This is clearly a reference to the assassination.
So, here we have an example of "real" time being connected to "police" time. Maybe not to the second but certainly to the minute.
"Real" time (the Hertz clock) says the assassination occurred at 12:30pm.
"Police" time (the tapes) says the assassination occurred at 12:30pm

This could be a coincidence.
Also, just because both "times" seem connected at 12:30pm doesn't mean they can't be 6 minutes out 40 minutes later.
And who's to say the Hertz clock represents "real" time.

The example I gave in my previous post about Day arriving at 1:12pm and Sawyer's call between 1:11 and 1:12pm appears to another coincidence at first glance but actually suggests there is a slight discrepency between the two "times".
There is also motorcycle cop E. D. Brewer. Between 12:37 and 12:38pm "tape" time Brewer is dealing with a witness on the west side of the underpass. He is told to get to the TSBD and rides the wrong way up Elm Street to get there.
The Murray pic below shows 12:39pm on the Hertz clock:



A closer inspection of the pic reveals Brewer riding the wrong way up Elm:



Once again, this demonstrates a very close synchronisation between "real" time and "police" time.

Great post, Dan.  If you don't mind, I'm gonna use that in a couple of the JFK assassination/J.D. Tippit Facebook groups that I participate in.

[Dan O'meara]

Great post, Dan.  If you don't mind, I'm gonna use that in a couple of the JFK assassination/J.D. Tippit Facebook groups that I participate in.

I don't mind at all Bill. It's still a work in progress so let's see where it leads.

[Bill Brown]

I don't mind at all Bill. It's still a work in progress so let's see where it leads.

I look forward to seeing the finished product.  Thanks man.

[Walt Cakebread]

I don't mind at all Bill. It's still a work in progress so let's see where it leads.

"Great post, Dan."    I'll second that opinion....And applaud your work, Dan.....

[John Iacoletti]

And who's to say the Hertz clock represents "real" time.

Exactly.

Besides, Curry’s announcements are on channel 2 and all of the time checks around the time of the Tippit shooting are on channel 1. Different dispatcher, different clock.

[Dan O'meara]

Exactly.

Out of my quite substantial post you pick one line:

"And who's to say the Hertz clock represents "real" time."

To which your response is - "Exactly"

"Exactly" what?
The picture I posted was taken seconds after the assassination and the Hertz clock reads 12:30pm.
The first call after the 12:30pm timestamp is also the first reference to the assassination taking place.
In his affidavit Dave Powers states the following:

I was very much concerned about our timing and at just about that point I looked at my watch and noted that it was almost exactly 12:30 p.m., Which was the time we were due at the Trade Mart. I commented to Ken O'Donnell that it was 12:30 and we would only be about five minutes late when we arrived at the Trade Mart. Shortly thereafter the first shot went off.


Bill Greer testifies as follows:

Mr. Specter: Do you recall whether he said anything else at that time?
Mr. Greer: After he had said to me, he said, "12:30," and that is all I remember him saying to me was 12:30, and he had communications with the cars but I don't remember what he had said to them.
Mr. Specter: Did he say just "12:30," or was it 12:30 used in a sentence?
Mr. Greer: He said "12:30." He looked at his watch, he said "12:30," and we were in the underpass at the time.

We have four independent sources confirming that the minute of the assassination was 12:30pm.
We have the DP "tape" time being confirmed by three independent sources of "real" time.
In terms of evidence this is more than enough for me to confidently assert that the minute [12:30:00 - 12:30:59] of the assassination was 12:30pm.
I also feel confident you will agree with this analysis.

Besides, Curry’s announcements are on channel 2 and all of the time checks around the time of the Tippit shooting are on channel 1. Different dispatcher, different clock.

Then it is important to establish that channel 1 and channel 2 are synchronised with each other.
After the 12:44pm timestamp [channel 2], Sawyer gives the first description of the suspect. Both dispatchers immediately broadcast this description givng the same details Sawyer provided but with slightly different wording.
Both dispatchers finish their descriptions with a timestamp - 12:45pm.



Once again, I am confident you will agree this is an unequivocal example of both channels being synched together.

[John Iacoletti]

"Exactly" what?

Who's to say the Hertz clock represents "real" time? We don’t know how or when it was calibrated.

We have four independent sources confirming that the minute of the assassination was 12:30pm.

You don’t know that they’re independent. For all you know, the channel two dispatcher set his clock to match the Hertz clock that morning and that Powers looked at the Hertz clock and misremembered it at looking at his watch. Greer is hearsay.

Besides, the 4 independent sources confirming that Tippit was shot several minutes before 1:15 don’t seem to impress the WC faithful, so why would this?

Then it is important to establish that channel 1 and channel 2 are synchronised with each other.
After the 12:44pm timestamp [channel 2], Sawyer gives the first description of the suspect. Both dispatchers immediately broadcast this description givng the same details Sawyer provided but with slightly different wording.
Both dispatchers finish their descriptions with a timestamp - 12:45pm.

Once again, I am confident you will agree this is an unequivocal example of both channels being synched together.

Not even a little bit. Just because they both announce a description doesn’t mean both did it immediately or at the same “real” time.

[John Iacoletti]

By the way, it has been claimed elsewhere that the “attention all squads” announcement was a single announcement given by a single dispatcher over both police channels. If that’s true, then the time check only reflects a single dispatcher’s clock. But then that doesn’t explain why the wordings aren’t identical in the transcripts.