Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Gary Craig]

FBI agents Vincent Drain and Charles T. Brown with bag and rifle

[John Iacoletti]

Page 105 Of First Day Evidence....The latent prints appeared immediately while the rifle as being dusted on the sixth floor ....  This action was CAPTURED ON FILM by a news photographer who had been allowed on the sixth floor by police. 

We know the reporter was Tom Alyea.....  Have you ever seen the film?

Yes, but the extant footage doesn’t show Day doing any lifts with cellophane tape and sticking them on index cards. And if Alyea’s memory was correct then where are all the index cards?

[Walt Cakebread]

  Hey Crapman,  Let's talk about the discovery of the carcano....

Bill Crapman wrote:....   Feel free to point out where any CT has ever identifified even a single piece of evidence as valid.

Here's just one piece of evidence that cannot be disputed as genuine....The Map of the sixth fllor that was drawn by Detective Robert Studebaker... Studebaker measured the distance from the N. wall to the spot where the carcano was discovered laying on the floor beneath a wooden pallet that had boxes of books stacked on it.  Studebaker's tape measure indicated the spot was 5 feet from the window in the east wall and 15 feet 4 inches from the North wall.

The rifle was 8 feet south of the top of the stairs.... Not three feet.  This one FACT destroys the imaginary theory concocted by the DPD and the FBI.

Tom Alyea wrote:...

Shortly after we arrived back on the 6th floor, Deputy Eugene Boone located the assassin's rifle almost completely hidden by some overhanging boxes near the stairwell. I filmed it as it was found. In my shot, the figure of Captain Fritz is standing within the enclosure next to the rifle. He knew then that the possibility of a fire fight with the sniper had greatly diminished. He dispatched one of his men to go down and call for the crime lab. About fifteen minutes later, Lt. Day and Studebaker arrived. Still pictures were taken of the positioning of the rifle, then Lt. Day slid it out from its hiding place and held it up for all of us to see. The world has seen my shot of this many times. Lt. Day immediately turned toward the window behind him and started dusting the weapon for fingerprints. Day was still within the enclosure formed by the surrounding boxes. I filmed him lifting prints from the rifle. He lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards.

Still pictures were taken of the positioning of the rifle, then Lt. Day slid it out from its hiding place and held it up for all of us to see

Do the official in situ photo of the rifle show that it would had to have been SLID OUT FROM anywhere?....And Would you describe the site as a "hiding place"?    There can be no doubt that the rifle was well hidden beneath a pallet that boxes of books stacked on it, because that's what Alyea described ...and Boone and Seymour Weitzman had to use flashlights to see the rifle beneath the pallet.

Also...The official in situ photos show the rifle to be located at about 13 feet from the north wall..... Detective Studebaker measured the distance from the North wall to the rifle at 15 feet 4 inches....  They moved the rifle two feet closer to the stairway because no human could have reached across and hid the rifle beneath that pallet while he was standing at the aisle of boxes at the top of the stairs.

[Walt Cakebread]

Yes, but the extant footage doesn’t show Day doing any lifts with cellophane tape and sticking them on index cards. And if Alyea’s memory was correct then where are all the index cards?

You've seen one of them....it was item number 14 on the evidence inventory list, and it became WC exhibit 639.

[Walt Cakebread]

Yes, but the extant footage doesn’t show Day doing any lifts with cellophane tape and sticking them on index cards. And if Alyea’s memory was correct then where are all the index cards?

Tom Alyea said that he filmed Day as Day lifted prints from the rifle.... I asked you..Have you ever seen the film?

You replied ...."Yes".... and then you said....but the extant footage doesn’t show Day doing any lifts with cellophane tape and sticking them on index cards.   So you have NOT seen the footage that Tom Alyea said he took.

 I agree... the brief, sketchy, footage that we've been allowed to see is nearly worthless....   Why was Alyea's footage heavily edited? 

[John Iacoletti]

You've seen one of them....it was item number 14 on the evidence inventory list, and it became WC exhibit 639.

LOL.  Circular argument. If Alyea saw Day putting lifts on little white cards then where are the rest of them?  And what evidence is there that the magic partial palmprint was one of them?  Just because you want it to be?

[Jack Trojan]

FBI agents Vincent Drain and Charles T. Brown with bag and rifle

WTF did they put in the bag to make Brown/Drain carry it that way??? It's bad enough they weren't wearing gloves but using the bag to hide "other" evidence that we are never privy to is beyond incompetence. What other evidence besides the rifle and chicken bones could be in that bag, which incidentally looks too short to contain the MC stock unless carried the way Brown/Drain did. There is also no evidence that the bag was folded at the top and carried like a sack lunch. 

How was this not tampering with crucial crime scene evidence by those trained to know better?

[Walt Cakebread]

LOL.  Circular argument. If Alyea saw Day putting lifts on little white cards then where are the rest of them?  And what evidence is there that the magic partial palmprint was one of them?  Just because you want it to be?

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer ...are you John?   

Did Alyea say that he filmed Detective Day as Day lifted prints from the rifle and then place the lifts on little white cards?   Asking me where the other cards are is a silly, and desperate, tactic..... 

Do we have a 3 X 5 white index card with a piece of scotch tape containing a lift on it?   Does that index card say that the lift was taken "off underside of gun barrel near end of fore grip C2766"   Did Tom Alyea say that he watched and filmed Day as he lifted prints from the rifle?...    How many lifts would Day have made?.... He found prints on the left side of the magazine / trigger housing and where else??

I've long wondered about the prints on the magazine.....Alyea said that he saw Day perform "lifts" plural.....  and Day said that he saw the prints on the magazine, but he didn't lift them....he merely covered them with scotch tape to protect them from being damaged....

Gary Craig just posted a film clip that shows FBI agents Drain, and Brown, carrying evidence including the rifle and something wrapped in a brown paper bag.   The trigger guard / magazine area of the rifle has a what looks like a file folder loosely tied around the magazine/ trigger guard.   If Lt Day had covered the prints on the magazine with cellophane tape why would the FBI agents tie the cardboard around that area?