The Magic Bullet

[Jerry Freeman]

Everybody notice that our friends from the no conspiracy side fail to address heresy from their own ranks?

[Gary Craig]

LOL! There's every reason to believe Connally was struck substantially earlier than Z338, and practically no reason to believe Kennedy was struck as "early as Z210."

   

Both men appear to first react (and simultaneously) Z225-226. This is consistent with both men being struck at about z223.

"Both men appear to first react (and simultaneously) Z225-226. This is consistent with both men being struck at about z223."

How is that possible?

The alleged bullet through JFK's neck was traveling at a slightly upward angle.

The bullet through JBC's chest was traveling at a 25 degree downward angle?

Any rational logical person would conclude those wounds were made by 2 seperate projectiles.

[Mike Orr]

 Tomlinson and O.P. Wright unanimous rejection of CE 399 was further confirmed by this top secret FBI Airtel , which was never shown to the Warren Commission.


   WFO ( FBI Washington Field Office ), neither DARRELL C. TOMLINSON , who found bullet at Parkland Hospital , Dallas , nor O.P. WRIGHT, Personnel Officer , Parkland Hospital , who obtained bullet from TOMLINSON and gave to Special Service , at Dallas 11/22/63 , can identify it .


Instead , the FBI told the Commission that the two civilians had been interviewed by Special Agent Bardwell Odum, who was told by the men , that the stretcher bullet " appears to be the same one ". But when Josiah Thompson and Dr. Gary Aguilar contacted the National Archives , they found no record of such an interview , in spite of the fact that the FBI was required to document interviews like that. And when they contacted Bardwell Odum in person , he denied ever conducting an interview and stated that he had NEVER even seen CE 399 .

jfkhistory.com/bell/bellarticle/BellArticle.html

[John Iacoletti]

Instead , the FBI told the Commission that the two civilians had been interviewed by Special Agent Bardwell Odum, who was told by the men , that the stretcher bullet " appears to be the same one ". But when Josiah Thompson and Dr. Gary Aguilar contacted the National Archives , they found no record of such an interview , in spite of the fact that the FBI was required to document interviews like that. And when they contacted Bardwell Odum in person , he denied ever conducting an interview and stated that he had NEVER even seen CE 399 .

The standard lame excuse for this is that Odum was older and he just forgot.  But when an 83 year old Jim Leavelle recalled stuff to Dale Myers...well you can take that to the bank.

[John Mytton]

The standard lame excuse for this is that Odum was older and he just forgot.  But when an 83 year old Jim Leavelle recalled stuff to Dale Myers...well you can take that to the bank.

The difference is that Leavelle was just reinforcing the already established evidence whereas Odum was contradicting everything that had gone before.



JohnM

[Gary Craig]

Clyde Snow's "upright" angle through the neck was in reference to how the neck structure changes between a life-position and auropsy-position.

When it came to depicting the "wounding position", the HSCA always shows the neck transit ranging downward.



I amended the diagram above (showing the limousine at about Z190) to show the slope from the Oswald window to the limousine at about Z223-25.

You have to move the back wound above the neck wound to make your theory work, just like Jerry Ford

and the WC had to.

[John Iacoletti]

The difference is that Leavelle was just reinforcing the already established evidence whereas Odum was contradicting everything that had gone before.

"Already established evidence".  LOL.

[Gary Craig]

The "anatomical position" is a generic position in which the individual is imagined to be standing upright and the neck area is structurally upright. This is supposed to give a consistency to wound locations so that various autopsy reports can be read with a common body position in mind.


^{Generic example}

The HSCA noted in Volume VII that the "anatomical position" differed from the life- or "wounding position". The neck structures changed such that the wound entry that was located perpendicular out from the T1 level (in the "anatomical position") was now above the T1 level (in the "wounding position").

Another source of confusion is that the term "autopsy position" is used interchangably to describe the "anatomical position". Kennedy at autopsy, with his head resting on a chock, had his neck structrues essentially in the life- or "wounding position". I guess the term"autopsy position" began to be used because the "anatomical position" is used at autopsy.

Huh?

Are you saying the diagrams of JFK's neck wound the HSCA published don't depict the wounds actual location?