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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #200 on: June 07, 2018, 11:08:35 PM »
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That Wecht used that exhibit to argue against the SBT shows how non-credible that he is.

Cyril Wecht is a foremost forensic pathologist.
 
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He has been the president of both the American Academy of Forensic Science and the American College of Legal Medicine, and currently heads the board of trustees of the American Board of Legal Medicine.
Tim Nickerson [who isn't/doesn't] keeps trying to constantly, continuously, and most persistently convince himself that he is always right.
 
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #201 on: June 07, 2018, 11:50:13 PM »
No, it did not. Why do you ask?
I thought you were suggesting that this bullet's similarity to CE399 was evidence that CE399 could have caused all of JBC's wounds.  If not, what was your point?

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« Reply #202 on: June 08, 2018, 12:10:49 AM »
That Wecht used that exhibit to argue against the SBT shows how non-credible that he is. Surely, he must have known better.

LN-ers accept the opinions of experts.  Except when they don't.

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« Reply #203 on: June 08, 2018, 12:18:02 AM »
Cyril Wecht is a foremost forensic pathologist.
 

So are Baden, Coe, Loquvam, Fisher, Spitz, and DiMaio. They disagree with St Cyril. Does that count?

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« Reply #204 on: June 08, 2018, 12:30:58 AM »
Had this bullet passed through a human torso causing an impact on the fifth rib that felt like someone had given him a hard punch and that then obliterated 10 cm of rib sending bone shards into the right lung ripping gashes in the lower lobe before exiting?  How was the 1100 fps measured? Was it a guess? Where did it strike the radius and what damage did it do to the radius?

The point of the demonstration was to show that below a certain velocity, a bullet ceases to be noticeably deformed by an impact. And 1100fps is still pretty quick.  Extend the  implications of this test into the question at hand (and there are always caveats to that, but still, that's the data we got) and you come into something like, the great bulk of damage to the bullet would have been from Connally's rib.

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« Reply #205 on: June 08, 2018, 12:44:21 AM »
So are Baden, Coe, Loquvam, Fisher, Spitz, and DiMaio. 
You might provide links there instead of making pithy statements.
Dr. Vincent J.M. Di Maio? Hell.... calls were made to revoke his medical license after his handling of the Zimmerman case. The other guys??
The desperate HSCA pulled all kinds of guys out of their backsides in order to bolster the fraudulent Warren Report.

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« Reply #206 on: June 08, 2018, 01:02:39 AM »
Cyril Wecht is a foremost forensic pathologist.
   Tim Nickerson [who isn't/doesn't] keeps trying to constantly, continuously, and most persistently convince himself that he is always right.

The four bullets next to CE 399 in that exhibit were not used to calculate the velocities at which the carcano bullet will begin to deform. The two bullets (CE572) had been fired into cotton wadding at near muzzle velocity. CE853 had been fired through a goat rib at near muzzle velocity. CE856 had been fired through the wrist of a human cadaver at near muzzle velocity. CE 399
struck Connally's wrist at well below muzzle velocity.

Wound ballistics expert Dr. Larry Sturdivan highlights Wecht's ignorance on the matter:

"Earlier, the FBI inadvertently proved that cotton waste, when compressed as it builds up on a penetrating bullet, is denser than soft tissue. They did this by firing WCC/MC bullets from the Oswald rifle into cotton waste at muzzle velocity. They were trying to recover undeformed bullets fired from the Oswald rifle. Such bullets were needed as ballistic standards with which to compare CE 399 and the fragments recovered from the floor of the limousine to determine whether they were fired from Oswald's weapon. The bullets they recovered in this manner were suitable as standards, but were deformed to a greater extent than CE 399. This point was missed entirely by Dr. Wecht in his HSCA testimony when he used the picture reproduced as figure 4 that contains those bullets. He claimed that the deformation in cotton waste proved that CE 399 did not smash the Governor's wrist since it would have been deformed more in the "hard bone". He considered the effect of strength and, perhaps, density of the target on deformation---but not the much greater effect of velocity." -- Larry Sturdivan, The JFK Myths: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination, pages 130 and 131.


https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Myths-Scientific-Investigation-Assassination/dp/1557788472



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« Reply #207 on: June 08, 2018, 01:03:35 AM »
Dr. Vincent J.M. Di Maio? Hell.... calls were made to revoke his medical license after his handling of the Zimmerman case.

Calls made by who?

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