Planet of apes is very apt I am a novice here, and by no means a researcher, but the discussions, imo, are aimed at the same old recurring arguments just beaten over one more time. And of course diminishing those with contrary opinions takes precedence over with an attempt to explore facts or why people have the opinions they have I certainly do not want to come off as a purist, but there are ways of discussing things in ways so that the group does not come off looking by Middle school level verbal assaults I am not going to name names but there is on e gentlemen among the LN that seems tied to some sense of decorum and maybe a couple on the CT
On a second point I know some sites can be backed up by sending an email of it in zip folder at certain intervals. Does anybody know if there are ways of avoiding hacks that can take down years of the archives I imagine it has been considered more thoroughly and not necessarily something the administrators want to discuss so my comments are meant to be more general than specifically about what happened here What happened here seems pretty tragic, and it may have been random, but otherwise my money is on forces associated with the LN point of view