Oswald's Shirt

[Jerry Freeman]

Jerry, Det. Richard Sims removed the bus transfer from Oswald's shirt pocket, not Carl Day.

Irrelevant really.
 
 

[Walt Cakebread]

No doubt the parrots will bring up this affidavit....



I am aware that it says 'dark shirt with white spots'.
However it says nothing about a 'jacket that matched the pants' which Whaley described Oswald was wearing in his later testimony. We can suppose a somewhat faulty memory in any event.  Cab drivers are busy with the public every day.

Lee Oswald was NOT the passenger in Whaley's cab.....

[Jerry Freeman]

Lee Oswald was NOT the passenger in Whaley's cab.....

Not impossible. That affidavit said he dropped off his passenger at the 500 block of N Beckley.
Google map that, and this puts it past the rooming house 0.5 miles.
That is a 10 minute walk at least.
 So......Why?
 Where could the passenger go after that?
That location places Whaley's fare 0.3 miles from the Tippit shooting.
Not very far.
If he  wasn't Whaley's rider...how did Oswald get back to his room?

Whaley mentions the bracelet on the left wrist.
However, we see that he had viewed Oswald before swearing out the affidavit......
Was Oswald still wearing the bracelet then?

[Walt Cakebread]

Not impossible. That affidavit said he dropped off his passenger at the 500 block of N Beckley.
Google map that, and this puts it past the rooming house 0.5 miles.
That is a 10 minute walk at least.
 So......Why?
 Where could the passenger go after that?
That location places Whaley's fare 0.3 miles from the Tippit shooting.
Not very far.
If he  wasn't Whaley's rider...how did Oswald get back to his room?

Whaley mentions the bracelet on the left wrist.
However, we see that he had viewed Oswald before swearing out the affidavit......
Was Oswald still wearing the bracelet then?

The bracelet is irrelevant..... perhaps Whaley's passenger was wearing a bracelet, but that doesn't prove the man as Lee Oswald.

Whaley was a big BSer....  He may have seen the bracelet in a photo of lee oswald after his arrest and noticed the bracelet....At any rate the bracelet proves nothing.

Lee Oswald was NOT the passenger in Whaley's cab......

[Jerry Freeman]

Lee Oswald was NOT the passenger in Whaley's cab......

Then how did Oswald get back to his room?

[Walt Cakebread]

Then how did Oswald get back to his room?

He took a cab , just as he said he did....But it wasn't Whaley's cab.   Whaley left the Greyhound bus depot at about 12:30 with his "wino" passenger who was dressed in  Blue workman's uniform type clothing.

Whaley said his passenger's fare was 95 cents....   Lee Oswald's fare was 85 cents.   That 85 cents would have delivered Lee to the intersection of Beckley and Zangs..... in front of the rooming house.

The story about Lee riding past the rooming house in Whaley's cab is utterly absurd!

[Jerry Freeman]

According to Dallas cops.....
At first Oswald told police he took a bus.
Asked about the cab then he then said yeah OK.
Then he told Fritz about a woman who wanted the cabbie to call her one.
He even offered it to her [not exactly a man on the run]
In his affidavit, Whaley mentions the same incident concerning that woman.
Too much of a coincidence.

The point of this thread concerns the shirt that Oswald was wearing the morning of the assassination and that it most likely wasn't CE 150. The authorities had to keep bringing back witnesses over and over again in the attempt to identify CE 150 as the shirt they saw him in.
Why? Because they had acquired threads from that shirt in some manner and stated that these threads were taken from the murder rifle found in the building.
A solid case had to be built and this was one more piece of the puzzle.

The dark brown shirt Oswald was wearing when arrested, along with the purported assassination weapon and much of the other first day evidence, was flown to Washington for testing by the FBI's crime lab that Friday night [leaving Oswald with only his T shirt]
CD5 p159
This evidence was tested throughout the next day. At 5:30 PM, Assistant Director Alan Belmont furnished Dallas Special-Agent-in-Charge Gordon Shanklin the results of these tests. A memo by Shanklin found in the Dallas FBI files reveals that, in regards to the shirt. Belmont told him: "Several black cotton, orange yellow cotton, and gray black cotton fibers which matched similar fibers composing Oswald's shirt removed from butt plate of submitted rifle."
No one who claimed they saw upper floor individuals before/during the shooting identified them wearing such a shirt.

The following morning, 11-24, the FBI Laboratory provided the Dallas police with the following information..

A small tuft of textile fibers was found adhering to a jagged area on the left side of the metal butt plate on the rifle. Included in this tuft of fibers were gray-black, dark blue and orange-yellow cotton fibers which match in microscopic characteristics the gray-black, dark blue and orange-yellow cotton fibers composing the CE 150 shirt of the suspect. These fibers could have originated from this shirt.

 CD5, p164
"Could"?? "Could have"??


CE 150...I fail to see any "blue" in the fabric

The parrots will point out I'm not an expert.
However, I can microscopically smell something fishy


The witnesses who saw Oswald on the bus and the cabbie Whaley ...were never shown CE 151 for identification...not that I can find anywhere.

[Walt Cakebread]

According to Dallas cops.....
At first Oswald told police he took a bus.
Asked about the cab then he then said yeah OK.
Then he told Fritz about a woman who wanted the cabbie to call her one.
He even offered it to her [not exactly a man on the run]
In his affidavit, Whaley mentions the same incident concerning that woman.
Too much of a coincidence.

The point of this thread concerns the shirt that Oswald was wearing the morning of the assassination and that it most likely wasn't CE 150. The authorities had to keep bringing back witnesses over and over again in the attempt to identify CE 150 as the shirt they saw him in.
Why? Because they had acquired threads from that shirt in some manner and stated that these threads were taken from the murder rifle found in the building.
A solid case had to be built and this was one more piece of the puzzle.

The dark brown shirt Oswald was wearing when arrested, along with the purported assassination weapon and much of the other first day evidence, was flown to Washington for testing by the FBI's crime lab that Friday night [leaving Oswald with only his T shirt]
CD5 p159
This evidence was tested throughout the next day. At 5:30 PM, Assistant Director Alan Belmont furnished Dallas Special-Agent-in-Charge Gordon Shanklin the results of these tests. A memo by Shanklin found in the Dallas FBI files reveals that, in regards to the shirt. Belmont told him: "Several black cotton, orange yellow cotton, and gray black cotton fibers which matched similar fibers composing Oswald's shirt removed from butt plate of submitted rifle."
No one who claimed they saw upper floor individuals before/during the shooting identified them wearing such a shirt.

The following morning, 11-24, the FBI Laboratory provided the Dallas police with the following information.. 
 CD5, p164
"Could"?? "Could have"??


CE 150...I fail to see any "blue" in the fabric

The parrots will point out I'm not an expert.
However, I can microscopically smell something fishy


The witnesses who saw Oswald on the bus and the cabbie Whaley ...were never shown CE 151 for identification...not that I can find anywhere.

According to Dallas cops.....

Keep those words in mind.....