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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #256 on: July 15, 2018, 12:38:18 PM »
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Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #26

Another round of "I don't believe a conspiracy would do X, therefore there was no conspiracy".

But why would a lone nut choose to shoot the president at a time when at least 80 percent of his body was concealed and protected by the body of his limousine either?

Yes. He had a complete and open shot coming down Houston.  Much more clearly than going down Elm away from the so-called lair, with the branches in the way and so forth. I've watched enough Forensic Files episodes (free on YTV) and criminals do do strange and dumb things.

But for this particular case, this makes no sense at all. The loud boom shot heard by various witnesses was IMO the distracting shot, causing confusion in the plaza area.  You can see that it did work as some of the SS agents immediately threw their heads backward to look that way.

The planners wanted to make damned sure the job got done so IMO this whole thing basically came down to overkill when the frontal shot blew his head off. What I've always wondered, too, is why not just shoot him in the head from the same gun that hit his back for the very first shot? It is something to think about but then I just answered my own question above with overkill.

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #257 on: July 15, 2018, 06:39:07 PM »
Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #26

Another round of "I don't believe a conspiracy would do X, therefore there was no conspiracy".

But why would a lone nut choose to shoot the president at a time when at least 80 percent of his body was concealed and protected by the body of his limousine either?


Because he didn't have the resources to reconnoiter assassination sites around the country where the president was scheduled to be, searching for the very best one he could find.

 ;D
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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #258 on: July 15, 2018, 06:42:18 PM »
Yes. He had a complete and open shot coming down Houston.  Much more clearly than going down Elm away from the so-called lair, with the branches in the way and so forth. I've watched enough Forensic Files episodes (free on YTV) and criminals do do strange and dumb things.

But for this particular case, this makes no sense at all. The loud boom shot heard by various witnesses was IMO the distracting shot, causing confusion in the plaza area.  You can see that it did work as some of the SS agents immediately threw their heads backward to look that way.

The planners wanted to make damned sure the job got done so IMO this whole thing basically came down to overkill when the frontal shot blew his head off. What I've always wondered, too, is why not just shoot him in the head from the same gun that hit his back for the very first shot? It is something to think about but then I just answered my own question above with overkill.

His head was blown off? I didn't know that.
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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #259 on: July 15, 2018, 07:10:30 PM »
His head was blown off? I didn't know that.

Yes, it was "blown off." Figuratively speaking. Were you not aware of that? Or because you don't like the Kennedys, he was merely "shot."

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #260 on: July 15, 2018, 08:25:36 PM »
Yes, it was "blown off." Figuratively speaking. Were you not aware of that? Or because you don't like the Kennedys, he was merely "shot."

Show us photographs of JFK's head in its 'blown off' state.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #261 on: July 15, 2018, 08:56:00 PM »
Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #28

Another round of "I know what a real conspiracy would do and that doesn't match what happened" with a new number attached to it.

...and apparently he thinks a conspiracy would try not to be caught but a lone gunman wouldn't.  :D

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #262 on: July 15, 2018, 09:01:00 PM »
No one can prove anything to a CTroll

Especially when you don't have any proof.

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #263 on: July 15, 2018, 09:02:11 PM »
Whoa. Maybe bench your Wikipedia Strawman for a second here, professor: Pretty sure the psychological take on conspiracy-mongers is their seeming need to make sense of a pipsqueak/loser/nobody taking down the most powerful man in the world. Thus the 42 groups-84 shooters-214-people-accused of being involved pretty much puts to the lie any lack of vastiosity (as Woody Allen might say) from the fringers.

Oswald  = David
Kennedy = Goliath

Who'da thunk it?
Definitely not CTers

"Pretty sure" you're making even less sense than usual.

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #263 on: July 15, 2018, 09:02:11 PM »