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Offline Walt Cakebread

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All these variances of the story are called rabbit trails/red herring.   Look at all the  coincidences and then say that you believe in the lone gunman theory.  The umbrella was an umbrella, which in and of itself is highly suspicious, and I've never met any serious assassination researcher that believes this man was shooting poison darts. This is how it works: someone comes out with an outlandish, impossible theory (the poison dart, the driver did it, they were shooting from the gutter, etc.), they get all over the mainstream media and all researchers are tarred with the same brush.

If someone's theory cannot be refuted, then they are ignored, misrepresented and/or attacked in the media on a personal level, i.e., according to Posner and Bugliosi, 3/4 of the citizens of Dallas must be both drunk and insane publicity seekers. If you are as yet undecided on JFK assassination, I would recommend you look for the points that the various theories have in common. Think about how outlandish and improbable the Lone Nut THEORY is. 
1)  Did Oswald screw up the autopsy of the president?
 
2)  Did Oswald cause forty different doctors and nurses at Parkland to describe wounds entirely inconsistent with the official autopsy?

3)  Did Oswald appoint the Warren Commission?
 
4)  Did Oswald harass/buy off/kill off the witnesses? Did Oswald alter the Zapruder film?

5)  Did Oswald damage all of the existing assassination films at the exact same spot?

6)  Did Oswald confiscate all of the other films that were never returned? In the Z film you can plainly see two men on the south side of Elm who appear to be filming the assassination at point blank range at the exact instant of the head shot...did Oswald steal their films?  What happened to them?

7)   Did Oswald sequester the evidence for 75 years? Why would National Security concerns require them to withhold the tax returns of a minimum wage lone nut malcontent? The truth is somewhere in there. 

The media learned a lesson in 1963, so much so that they barely even questioned the official party line when MLK and RFK were assassinated, and by 9/ll they just read the script they were given like they couldn't see in their own video that there was neither a plane or any human remains in Shanksville. ....wake up...

This is how it works: someone comes out with an outlandish, impossible theory (the poison dart, the driver did it, they were shooting from the gutter, etc.), they get all over the mainstream media and all researchers are tarred with the same brush.

WHO ??  Would benefit from discrediting the critics of the officially approved tale?  Who controls the information that is broadcast by he mainstream media as the truth?   

If you doubt and criticize the officially approved tale, you're simply a Kook......

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Offline Dan DAlimonte

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All these variances of the story are called rabbit trails/red herring.   Look at all the  coincidences and then say that you believe in the lone gunman theory.  The umbrella was an umbrella, which in and of itself is highly suspicious, and I've never met any serious assassination researcher that believes this man was shooting poison darts. This is how it works: someone comes out with an outlandish, impossible theory (the poison dart, the driver did it, they were shooting from the gutter, etc.), they get all over the mainstream media and all researchers are tarred with the same brush.

If someone's theory cannot be refuted, then they are ignored, misrepresented and/or attacked in the media on a personal level, i.e., according to Posner and Bugliosi, 3/4 of the citizens of Dallas must be both drunk and insane publicity seekers. If you are as yet undecided on JFK assassination, I would recommend you look for the points that the various theories have in common. Think about how outlandish and improbable the Lone Nut THEORY is. 
1)  Did Oswald screw up the autopsy of the president?
 
2)  Did Oswald cause forty different doctors and nurses at Parkland to describe wounds entirely inconsistent with the official autopsy?

3)  Did Oswald appoint the Warren Commission?
 
4)  Did Oswald harass/buy off/kill off the witnesses? Did Oswald alter the Zapruder film?

5)  Did Oswald damage all of the existing assassination films at the exact same spot?

6)  Did Oswald confiscate all of the other films that were never returned? In the Z film you can plainly see two men on the south side of Elm who appear to be filming the assassination at point blank range at the exact instant of the head shot...did Oswald steal their films?  What happened to them?

7)   Did Oswald sequester the evidence for 75 years? Why would National Security concerns require them to withhold the tax returns of a minimum wage lone nut malcontent? The truth is somewhere in there. 

The media learned a lesson in 1963, so much so that they barely even questioned the official party line when MLK and RFK were assassinated, and by 9/ll they just read the script they were given like they couldn't see in their own video that there was neither a plane or any human remains in Shanksville. ....wake up...

Hey, Allan.  This should be a thread onto itself.  Why don't you post it as such?
What questionable evidence (which was out of Oswald's control) which supports
the lone gunman theory?

There would be fireworks, no doubt.  But the odds that there's way too much of it
would support something must have happened other than the conclusion we were given.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2018, 01:36:24 PM by Dan DAlimonte »

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Nowt queer as folk.

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Online John Iacoletti

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A photo of a parking lot with no jacket in it is about as useful as a photo of a corner of the TSBD with no paper bag in it.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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You beat me to it ... what a striking similarity.

The case is chock full of "evidence" based on the same principal ......  Which is: ..introduce information in a sneaky, wily,  manner that allows the sucker to perceive what is being suggested but not specifically stated is his idea.....  Thus the sucker believes that he has reached a conclusive solution through his own reasoning.

There was no paper bag there in the SE corner.....But many folks will argue that the was as if it's as elementary as 2+2=4.

But taking that idea just a step further....There was no "Sniper's Nest" in that SE corner and there were NO SHOTS fired from that SE corner window....and WHOA.....Now that is a nutty idea......
« Last Edit: January 27, 2018, 01:41:36 PM by Walt Cakebread »

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Offline Bill Brown

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Did you miss the "guessing" and "any other car" part while "NL 95" was right under his nose?

Don't go down the Billy Brown path -- he's flat down on his face now.

Why don't you quote the police officer who picked up the jacket and took down the license number?


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Don't go down the Billy Brown path -- he's flat down on his face now.

This may mean something... if you had any credibility at all.

Offline Bill Brown

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You mean the man that Reynolds said wasn't LHO UNTIL he was shot in the head? That guy?

You're so full of it.

Cite for Warren Reynolds ever saying that the man was NOT Lee Oswald.

You are playing games again. The issue is whether Reynolds ever identified LHO as the man he saw running after the JDT murder, and until he was shot in the head the answer was no.

This is from my "Statements That Sink The WC's Conclusions" series.

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REYNOLDS was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, at which time he advised he is of the opinion OSWALD is the person he had followed on the afternoon of November 22, 1963; however, he would hesitate to definitely identify OSWALD as the individual. (FBI Interview with Warren Reynolds on January 21, 1964, Commission Exhibit (CE) 2523, p. 731)

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0381a.htm

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But, you said that Warren Reynolds said that the man was NOT Lee Oswald.

You lied and misrepresented.  Typical.

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Yes, killing the president wasn't enough that day.  They needed Oswald to kill someone else before the police really looked for him.  And shoot him on sight?  I guess they screwed that one up too since they arrested Oswald and freely allowed him to talk to the press.  Whew.  That is far out.  Imagine how many people would have to be involved in arranging an Oswald "double", a police officer to murder, getting the "real" Oswald into that same area so that he could be arrested/shot, getting the fake "Oswald" away undetected, silencing the fake Oswald for the rest of his life etc.   What a fantasy.


Good post Richard. Most of these CTers have never had any firearm experience. When shot the wound doesn't always splatter all over the place. Especially when small caliber weapons are used and the type of ammo. It's not Hollywood,or a John Wayne western. The wound to JD's head did not exit so there would not have been any splatter from an exit wound.

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