Up close shot to Tippit's head and no spatter detected on shoes or pants?

[Ray Mitcham]

Good post Richard. Most of these CTers have never had any firearm experience. When shot the wound doesn't always splatter all over the place. Especially when small caliber weapons are used and the type of ammo. It's not Hollywood,or a John Wayne western. The wound to JD's head did not exit so there would not have been any splatter from an exit wound.

Did they find a bullet in his head, then, Wes?

[Dan DAlimonte]

Good post Richard. Most of these CTers have never had any firearm experience. When shot the wound doesn't always splatter all over the place. Especially when small caliber weapons are used and the type of ammo. It's not Hollywood,or a John Wayne western. The wound to JD's head did not exit so there would not have been any splatter from an exit wound.

Hey, Wesley.  Way back before the crash I presented this topic here and the only other
person I found on the web with the same thought came from a former police officer, Gil Jesus.

   
Posted September 17, 2011 (edited)
  On 9/15/2011 at 5:04 PM, Craig Lamson said:
Osswald? Who cares? Not me.

The jacket? Who cares? Not me.

Gunpowder? Don't have a clue and don't care one way or the other.

Holding the feet of the photographically ignorant to the fire....priceless.

You are yet another predictable e CT. Thanks for the grins Gil.

ROFLMAO.....you're a legend in your own mind.

But here's the problem.... if the jacket in the video IS the jacket found in the lot and worn by the Tippit killer, then there would have been gunpowder residue and blood splatter on it. And it would have been completely understandable for a killer escaping in public and in broad daylight, to attempt to avoid drawing attention to himself by discarding a jacket splattered with the blood of a victim.

That I have no problem with. Makes complete sense to me.

But if that jacket in the video is the GREY jacket, as you claim, there should be gunpowder residue and blood splatter on that as well. Yet, the color photographs supplied by Mr. Backes from NARA earlier in this thread show no such blood splatter on the jacket.

In addition, there is no report of Tippit's blood being found on Oswald's pants or shoes.

This is considered PHYSICAL EVIDENCE and it simply isn't there.

Absent any PHYSICAL evidence that Tippit's killer was wearing the GREY jacket at the time of the murder, the GREY jacket can't possibly be the jacket we see in the video.

And absent any PHYSICAL evidence of Tippit's blood on Oswald's clothing at the time of his arrest the likelihood that Oswald was Tippit's killer is greatly diminished.

Yeah, we know, you don't care who did it. That's your excuse everytime you're faced with evidence you can't explain.

BTW, Holding the feet of the evidentiary ignorant to the fire....that's REALLY priceless.

Grins ? You supply more grins to more people than most posters.

Edited September 17, 2011 by Gil Jesus

[Wesley Johnson]

Did they find a bullet in his head, then, Wes?

The autopsy was performed on J.D. Tippit at 3:15 pm CST, on 22 November 1963. It was performed by Dr. Earl Rose at Parkland Memorial Hospital. Dr. Rose was the medical examiner at Parkland and had protested the President's body being flown back to Washington DC. A side note on Dr. Rose, he served on the medical panel for the HSCA in the 70's and concluded that the president was struck by two bullets fired from behind and above the president. To answer your question. Yes the bullet was recovered from Tippit's head. It had entered just to the right of Tippit's right eye an took a slightly, upward, backward and left lodging against the skull.

[Ray Mitcham]

The autopsy was performed on J.D. Tippit at 3:15 pm CST, on 22 November 1963. It was performed by Dr. Earl Rose at Parkland Memorial Hospital. Dr. Rose was the medical examiner at Parkland and had protested the President's body being flown back to Washington DC. A side note on Dr. Rose, he served on the medical panel for the HSCA in the 70's and concluded that the president was struck by two bullets fired from behind and above the president. To answer your question. Yes the bullet was recovered from Tippit's head. It had entered just to the right of Tippit's right eye an took a slightly, upward, backward and left lodging against the skull.

"It had entered just to the right of Tippit's right eye an took a slightly, upward, backward and left lodging against the skull." Rather similar to the wound that the President got. i.e right temple area and back of head blown out, just exactly how some CT think the President died.

[Wesley Johnson]

"It had entered just to the right of Tippit's right eye an took a slightly, upward, backward and left lodging against the skull." Rather similar to the wound that the President got. i.e right temple area and back of head blown out, just exactly how some CT think the President died.

Good point. Let's look at it. If you say it is similar to what the president got, then why was a bullet not found in the left rear portion of the president's skull, or blow out the left, rear part of his skull?

[Ray Mitcham]

Good point. Let's look at it. If you say it is similar to what the president got, then why was a bullet not found in the left rear portion of the president's skull, or blow out the left, rear part of his skull?

Because of the  autopsy was so poorly conducted.

The reason why no bullet was found was because it blew the back of the President's head off.
It seems it was never recovered.

 Tippet was shot by a revolver...JFK by a high powered rifle. that's the reason for the difference.

 

[Wesley Johnson]

Because of the  autopsy was so poorly conducted.

The reason why no bullet was found was because it blew the back of the President's head off.
It seems it was never recovered.

 Tippet was shot by a revolver...JFK by a high powered rifle. that's the reason for the difference.

Ray we are starting off on a different direction from this thread. But you are wrong. The back of the president's head was not blown off. The Zapruder film clearly shows the right side of the president's head blow out. I'll just ask ahead of time because I know you will come back and say the film was altered. Zapruder had three copies made, he gave one to the FBI and one to the Secret Service and he sold one to Life Magazine. So, when, where, how and by whom were all 3 films altered? Zapruder never said his film was altered. 

[Martin Weidmann]

Ray we are starting off on a different direction from this thread. But you are wrong. The back of the president's head was not blown off. The Zapruder film clearly shows the right side of the president's head blow out. I'll just ask ahead of time because I know you will come back and say the film was altered. Zapruder had three copies made, he gave one to the FBI and one to the Secret Service and he sold one to Life Magazine. So, when, where, how and by whom were all 3 films altered? Zapruder never said his film was altered.

Tom Robinson was part of the funeral home team who prepared JFK's body for burial. He worked on Kennedy's head for several hours and he saw the wound up close and placed it clearly at the back of the head. There is a video interview with him on YouTube where he shows the exact location of the wound.

Could it be this guy worked on a wound that really wasn't there? What do you think?