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Offline Jim Brazell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #88 on: July 02, 2018, 11:23:08 PM »
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handwritten - different than the type is no confirmation
could have been added any time

LOL...absolutely correct Michael ! You mean you are bothering to type a statement and the date is not important...in the crime of the century ? Give me a minute and let me stop laughing. Oh, I forgot there seems to be a handwritten Studebaker added as well. I wouldn't have even trotted this trash out.Taking a break...my sides are hurting from laughter.

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #88 on: July 02, 2018, 11:23:08 PM »


Offline John Mytton

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2018, 12:15:42 AM »
LOL...absolutely correct Michael ! You mean you are bothering to type a statement and the date is not important...in the crime of the century ? Give me a minute and let me stop laughing. Oh, I forgot there seems to be a handwritten Studebaker added as well. I wouldn't have even trotted this trash out.Taking a break...my sides are hurting from laughter.





Jim, what exactly are you trying to say because here's what we know that can be proved beyond all doubt.

An Italian Carcano was filmed on the 6th floor and this footage of an Italian Carcano was broadcast on the afternoon of the 22nd. In the following video from DVP's YT channel @3:25 we see Oswald's Italian Carcano being shown that afternoon on WFAA-TV.


Here's how we know that Oswald's Carcano is the actual rifle found on the 6th floor because C2766 the rifle that Oswald bought from Kleins had a unique random gouge on the the forestock and this random gouge is exactly replicated on the 6th floor Italian Carcano and the Italian Carcano that is seen being held by Lt Day at the DPD and all on the 22nd.



And if that wasn't enough here's an Italian Carcano being removed from the Depository on the same afternoon.





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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2018, 01:01:03 AM »
Handwritten dates can be added later
especially if backtracking

There's no doubt in my mind that Day added the information and date later.....Because on the night of the coup d e'tat  when the evidence was inventoried before releasing it to the FBI the rifle was listed on the inventory sheet as...
Quote....  " 1 Italian make 6.5 rifle, serial number C 2766, blue steel, wood stock, brown leather sling, with 4 X 18 Coated Ordinance Optics Inc. Hollywood California. 0 10 Japan telescopic sight."  unquote     

The date 1940 and Made in Italy were NOT on the evidence inventory list for midnight 11/22/63.

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2018, 03:58:29 AM »

This is somewhat off topic... but is this a metal detector in the picture with the gun?
Or a parking meter on the curve (which would be odd)??


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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2018, 05:06:32 AM »
This is somewhat off topic... but is this a metal detector in the picture with the gun?
Or a parking meter on the curve (which would be odd)??



Or, maybe a temporary flashing amber light.

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
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Offline Jim Brazell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2018, 05:17:00 AM »




Jim, what exactly are you trying to say because here's what we know that can be proved beyond all doubt.

An Italian Carcano was filmed on the 6th floor and this footage of an Italian Carcano was broadcast on the afternoon of the 22nd. In the following video from DVP's YT channel @3:25 we see Oswald's Italian Carcano being shown that afternoon on WFAA-TV.


Here's how we know that Oswald's Carcano is the actual rifle found on the 6th floor because C2766 the rifle that Oswald bought from Kleins had a unique random gouge on the the forestock and this random gouge is exactly replicated on the 6th floor Italian Carcano and the Italian Carcano that is seen being held by Lt Day at the DPD and all on the 22nd.



And if that wasn't enough here's an Italian Carcano being removed from the Depository on the same afternoon.





JohnM

My goodness....I'm new here but I see how this works. No disrespect intended but No one answers my questions about identifying the rifle found BY THE SERIAL NUMBER AND MAKE STAMPED ON THE RIFLE !!! Why look at the some random gouge...just take the magnifying glass and look at this info. There's a reason why they stamp this stuff on the gun ! This isn't rocket science.So, MY QUESTION is why not simply look at this info and resolve all doubt ? I posted this very SAME film here myself. There is a shorter Alyea film that starts with a man in a suit with a rifle(as only 2 newsmen were supposedly there and it was cordoned off we assume it's a law enforcement official)...as he quickly moves away from the window, he first looks like he wants to make a quick exit through the boxes on the right side and seeing that is not possible he heads straight ahead toward the camera man. The gun has no scope and appears to have a silencer on it. A similar rifle with no scope is seen on the street with a gathering around it.

So to keep this on a see Spot run, see Spot catch the ball level....1). WHY was the gun not identified by serial number and make on the spot....the gun was right in front of he & Fritz...magnifying glass in hand. 2). WHY not an immediate rebuttal of Weitzman's "It IS a Mauser" if it was known as you saythat it was a MC ? 3). WHY allow such misinformation to hit the media and take 24 hours to be corrected? 4). Why would Day handle the gun(such crucial evidence) by the trigger & trigger handle?  5) WHY is it assumed that only one gun was found?...there are pictures of 2 and possibly 3 guns found. There are witnesses stating there was movement on the SOUTHWEST corner of the 6th floor right before the shooting If 2-5 are too taxing, please answer #1 !!!

This has been just on the Mauser subject...what make and caliber of rifle do you think fired from the 2nd floor of the County Records Bldg. in the Robert Hughes film ? windshield hole? manhole cover ? I mean I can go on.         

Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #94 on: July 03, 2018, 02:47:19 PM »

Jim, I looked at the Alyea film again... The narrator does say "there's an officer with the gun"... The officer is looking out the window and then walks toward the camera. The gun he is holding really looks like a pump shot-gun, in my opinion (if I'm actually looking at the same one you mention). It would be good if we had better film copy to analyze...

But yes, I agree. On site where the gun was found, there should have been positive identification without any question or doubt. Instead we get "it looks like... he said it was..., etc."
We're either dealing with the Keystone cops, or there is something else, perhaps sinister, going on with the Mauser issue....
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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #95 on: July 03, 2018, 03:24:08 PM »
 It would also be nice to get a clearer picture of what went on for those 45 minutes until they found the rifle

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #95 on: July 03, 2018, 03:24:08 PM »