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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #232 on: July 19, 2018, 01:51:54 PM »
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Duh. Who said that the Mauser was in photographs that we were allowed to see besides you?


OK...So it appears that you now acknowledge that the rifle in the photos is a Mannlicher Carcano.....that's good...But we're no closer to answering the question that is the title of this thread.    What happened to the Mauser?   

There's no doubt that Weitzman examined a 7.65 Mauser and described it in detail for the FBI agent...   FOR WHAT PURPOSE???     WHERE did that Mauser come from??    Weitzman said that Captain Fritz came and reclaimed the Mauser from him. So based on that statement Fritz was in possession of a Mauser.   What was the idea of trying to trick Weitzman into thinking that the rifle he'd seen at 1:25 pm in the TSBD was a mauser??

Did it have something to do with the phony in situ photo of the rifle ??  That phony in situ photo seems to show a Mauser down on the floor behind the boxes.....  I suspect they used a Mauser to stage the phony photo because the Carcano was in Washington at the time.   

 
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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #233 on: July 19, 2018, 04:28:19 PM »

OK...So it appears that you now acknowledge that the rifle in the photos is a Mannlicher Carcano.....that's good...But we're no closer to answering the question that is the title of this thread.    What happened to the Mauser?   

There's no doubt that Weitzman examined a 7.65 Mauser and described it in detail for the FBI agent...   FOR WHAT PURPOSE???     WHERE did that Mauser come from??    Weitzman said that Captain Fritz came and reclaimed the Mauser from him. So based on that statement Fritz was in possession of a Mauser.   What was the idea of trying to trick Weitman into thinking that the rifle he's seen was a mauser??

Did it have something to do with the phony in situ photo of the rifle ??  That phony in situ photo seems to show a Mauser down on the floor behind the boxes.....  I suspect they used a Mauser to stage the phony photo because the Carcano was in Washington at the time.

Wrong.  Good grief.  What a tortured interpretation of simple events.  Weitzman didn't examine any Mauser on 11.23.  Read the FBI report.  He is clearly describing the events of 11.22.  He believed, erroneously, that the rifle he saw on that date was a Mauser.  But as you point out, the films make clear it was a MC rifle.  As a result, we know he was mistaken.  There was no Mauser at all.  Or do you believe the Mauser was discovered on 11.23, that it was given to Fritz, that Fritz ejected a round from it and thereafter Weitzman discontinued the search of the 6th floor?  Sound familiar?  That is the entire context of the rifle being discussed in the FBI report.  That is exactly what happened with the rifle found on 11.22.  That is what Weitzman is discussing in the FBI report.  Not any rifle he was being shown on 11.23.

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #234 on: July 19, 2018, 05:09:34 PM »
This is akin to discussing a subject with a three-year old. I have explained this to you countless times over the years, but let's do it again so you can ignore this one too.

A Mauser was found. It was NOT buried beneath boxes. It was examined. It was reported on in official evidence. If it was photographed we have not been shown those photographs. It was most likely actually used in the assassination of JFK.

It had to go. Exit stage left Mauser. Enter the prop gun.

The prop gun, CE 139, was buried beneath boxes. We know from the evidence that LHO would NOT have had the time to do this IF he was the assassin, and he wasn't, so this is proof that the gun was staged beforehand. They called in a friendly and cooperative media person, Alyea, to film the "discovery" of the prop gun.

The clip is another piece of proof that the prop gun was staged as it should NOT have been in gun since the last round had been chambered. Someone goofed.

You claim to be a CTer all the while fighting to hide these truths. You fight that a Mauser was found and you fight the clip issue relentlessly. No real CTer would do this.

A Mauser was found. It was NOT buried beneath boxes. It was examined. It was reported on in official evidence. If it was photographed we have not been shown those photographs. It was most likely actually used in the assassination of JFK.

It had to go. Exit stage left Mauser. Enter the prop gun.


A mauser was involved....and Weitzman examined it.   No doubt about that.....   But what do you mean when you say a mauser was "FOUND"....   Where???  and when??   Please present some sold evidence to support your claim.

It was NOT buried beneath boxes.

But you have supported Roger Craig's story that the rifle that Boone discovered where it had been carefully buried beneath boxes of books was a Mauser, that was stamped right there on the barrel ...quote.."7.65 MAUSER"... unquote.   Do you now agree that Roger Craig was a liar?   

 If it was photographed we have not been shown those photographs.

I believe the Mauser was the rifle used to stage the phony in situ photos which purport to show the mannlicher carcano as it was found on the floor near the NW stairwell.   They had to replace the original in situ photos because those photos revealed that the rifle (the Mannlicher Carcano) was too far away from the aisle for any "fleeing assassin" to have reached across and hastily deposited the rifle as he fled.  (Unless the assassin was the comic book character"Plastic Man" who could stretch his arm out and dump the rifle about five feet back from the aisle.)   Since the original in situ photos  were damning to the story they were telling, they created the fake photos...but they didn't have the Carcano because the FBI had it in Washington.   So they substituted the Mauser that Fritz had in his possession.

The prop gun, CE 139, was buried beneath boxes. We know from the evidence that LHO would NOT have had the time to do this IF he was the assassin, and he wasn't, so this is proof that the gun was staged beforehand. They called in a friendly and cooperative media person, Alyea, to film the "discovery" of the prop gun.


Yes that's correct.....except they didn't call in "a friendly and cooperative media person. Tom Alyea.   Alyea just happened to be there, and filmed the event ( the recovery of the carefully hidden Carcano) His film was "edited" and the revealing and incriminating frames removed and  fell " on the news room floor "

The clip is another piece of proof that the prop gun was staged as it should NOT have been in gun since the last round had been chambered. Someone goofed.

Exactly right.....The clip was in the rifle but it should have fallen free when the last round (Spent shell) that was fired and ejected.  That clip should have been beneath the window if that rifle had been fired from that site.  The fact that the clip was in the rifle and i was not "jammed" or "stuck" is solid proof that the rifle was carefully (albeit stupidly) prepped and then carefully hidden by building a cavern of boxes around the rifle.  And since the clip obviously nearly fell out of the rifle as Detective Day examined it, we can know that the clip was NOT stuck. 

You claim to be a CTer all the while fighting to hide these truths. You fight that a Mauser was found and you fight the clip issue relentlessly. No real CTer would do this.

Your animosity has blinded you....

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #235 on: July 19, 2018, 05:17:32 PM »


Oswald's rifle C2766 was filmed as it was picked up and this footage was broadcast on television just a few hours later.



Oswald's rifle C2766 on the same afternoon was paraded in front of the press.







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Remember that Day said that he placed Cellophne tape over the partial finger prints on the magazine / rigger guard of the rifle....  Do you see any cellophane tape on the magazine??



Oswald's rifle C2766 on the same afternoon was paraded in front of the press.




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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #236 on: July 19, 2018, 05:28:25 PM »
This was all he wrote in the DMN Nov 23
"...A little later police found the weapon, its steel butt plate and muzzle exposed at either end of the stack of textbooks."

its steel butt plate and muzzle exposed at either end of the stack of textbooks."



Biffle was right.....The rifle ( a Mannlicher Carcano) was carefully hidden and even Boone said that he could only see a small portion of the butt of the rifle....   The fake in situ photos ( which were made by substituting a 7.65 Mauser) would lead you to believe that the rifle had been hastily tossed aside and most of the rifle was visible.
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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #237 on: July 19, 2018, 07:07:16 PM »
its steel butt plate and muzzle exposed at either end of the stack of textbooks."



Biffle was right.....The rifle ( a Mannlicher Carcano) was carefully hidden and even Boone said that he could only see a small portion of the butt of the rifle....   The fake in situ photos ( which were made by substituting a 7.65 Mauser) would lead you to believe that the rifle had been hastily tossed aside and most of the rifle was visible.

It's been a while but here you go again for what's has to be at least the 30th time you've started with your concocted bullshi*about your carefully hidden rifle. You have been destroyed every time . Nobody come to your aid. None of the Superheroes on here save you when you start this crap. Please continue.

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #238 on: July 19, 2018, 08:01:19 PM »
It's been a while but here you go again for what's has to be at least the 30th time you've started with your concocted bullshi*about your carefully hidden rifle. You have been destroyed every time . Nobody come to your aid. None of the Superheroes on here save you when you start this crap. Please continue.

Thank you for your permission......But there will always be simple minded people who accept BS if the "authorities" present it....and those simple minds will reject anything contradictory to the official tale.....and label the truth "bullshi*"

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #239 on: July 19, 2018, 10:21:06 PM »
I suppose you can see the serial number too?

Well yes, as a matter of fact, I can.....It's c 2766.....

Then you belong in the "John Mytton" school of wishful thinking.

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #239 on: July 19, 2018, 10:21:06 PM »