What happened to the Mauser?

[Tim Nickerson]

We have Lt Day himself saying that he placed cellophane tape over a print .... And we have Tom Alyea saying that he witnessed Day using Celophane tape on a print in the TSBD....

Now then...Isn't it a fact that Day swore that he never saw the palm print until he disassembled the rifle in the DPD crime lab that evening....

So he couldn't have been using cellophane tape on the palm print.....Now could he?? 

So either Day was applying cellophane tape to the trigger guard prints....OR...   He did not find the so called palm print on the metal barrel beneath the wooden stock after he disassembled the rifle.

Either way...You're forced to accept that Day was a damned liar....

Walt, you forcefully asserted that Day swore that he placed cellophane tape over the partial finger prints that he found on the trigger guard / magazine while examining the rifle in the TSBD at about 1:45 PM that afternoon. You were wrong. Just admit it and move on.

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt, you forcefully asserted that Day swore that he placed cellophane tape over the partial finger prints that he found on the trigger guard / magazine while examining the rifle in the TSBD at about 1:45 PM that afternoon. You were wrong. Just admit it and move on.

The question is:.... Did Lt Day use cellophane tape on the rifle while examining it in the TSBD that afternoon?

Tom Alyea is on record as having witnessed Lt. Day use cellophane tape while examining the rifle at about 2:00PM that afternoon.

Now, using the official tale....He could not have been using the cellophane tape on the so called "palm print"  because he didn't discover that print until he disassembled the rifle in the Police lab that evening.   

So, Now then, Ol wise one....  What prints could Day have been using the cellophane tape on at 2:00 pm as Tom Alyea watched??

PS...There is an good reasonable answer to this puzzle....

[Tim Nickerson]

The question is:.... Did Lt Day use cellophane tape on the rifle while examining it in the TSBD that afternoon?

Tom Alyea is on record as having witnessed Lt. Day use cellophane tape while examining the rifle at about 2:00PM that afternoon.

Now, using the official tale....He could not have been using the cellophane tape on the so called "palm print"  because he didn't discover that print until he disassembled the rifle in the Police lab that evening.   

So, Now then, Ol wise one....  What prints could Day have been using the cellophane tape on at 2:00 pm as Tom Alyea watched??

PS...There is an good reasonable answer to this puzzle....

Alyea is also on record as saying that there were no chicken bones on the sixth floor. He said that they were on the fifth floor. Alyea is also on record as saying that Sheriff Mooney never reached the sixth floor until after the rifle was found.

Your puzzle has now been reasonably answered.

[Jerry Freeman]

he didn't discover that print until he disassembled the rifle in the Police lab that evening.   

Bottom of page how [analyst] Latona mentions the old p.o.s rifle couldn't maintain latent prints......
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=34#relPageId=38&tab=page
 
 

[Tim Nickerson]

Bottom of page how [analyst] Latona mentions the old p.o.s rifle couldn't maintain latent prints......
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=34#relPageId=38&tab=page

That's the same Latona who confirmed that the palm print was Oswald's and who later confirmed that the print had indeed been lifted from the barrel of Oswald's rifle.

[Walt Cakebread]

Alyea is also on record as saying that there were no chicken bones on the sixth floor. He said that they were on the fifth floor. Alyea is also on record as saying that Sheriff Mooney never reached the sixth floor until after the rifle was found.

Your puzzle has now been reasonably answered.

Not Quite..Snickerson....Because Lt Day himself said that Alyea filmed him as he examined the rifle....

The latent fingerprints appeared immediately while the rifle was being dusted on the sixth floor after it was located behind the stacks of boxes. This action was captured on film by a news photographer who had been allowed on the sixth floor by police.

And don't you agree that it would be a bit stupid for Lt Day to lift a palm print off the gun and then hastily scrawl " off underside gun barrell near end of foregrip on rifle C 2766."  After all he was allegedly in the police lab where he could have  neatly typed up a complete detailed description of what he'd found....

Perhaps you can't remember that Alyea described Day LIFTING a print from the rifle and placing that lift on a 3 X 5 file card and then hastily scrawling the information pertaining to the cellophane tape with the smudge on it.

[Walt Cakebread]

Tom Alyea has recorded that he watched as Lt Day applied cellophane tape to the print and lifted it  from the rifle

That was the palm print under the stock

Tom Alyea has recorded that he watched as Lt Day applied cellophane tape to the print and lifted it  from the rifle

That was the palm print under the stock.

HUH??....  I believe you need to put a cork in it....Tom Alyea was NOT in the police crime lab on the evening od 11 /22 /63, and watching Detective Day examine the rifle ...   But He definitely was on the sixth floor of the TSBD that afternoon and he watched as Day examined the rifle and lifted a print from that rifle....

[Tim Nickerson]

Not Quite..Snickerson....Because Lt Day himself said that Alyea filmed him as he examined the rifle....

The latent fingerprints appeared immediately while the rifle was being dusted on the sixth floor after it was located behind the stacks of boxes. This action was captured on film by a news photographer who had been allowed on the sixth floor by police.

And don't you agree that it would be a bit stupid for Lt Day to lift a palm print off the gun and then hastily scrawl " off underside gun barrell near end of foregrip on rifle C 2766."  After all he was allegedly in the police lab where he could have  neatly typed up a complete detailed description of what he'd found....

Perhaps you can't remember that Alyea described Day LIFTING a print from the rifle and placing that lift on a 3 X 5 file card and then hastily scrawling the information pertaining to the cellophane tape with the smudge on it.

Geez Walt, you ought to retire from this stuff. What Alyea described was not accurate.  Alyea recalled a number of things that were just not so.