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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Walt Cakebread on January 25, 2020, 04:27:03 PM
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Why do many CT's allow themselves to be manipulated and mislead by the lies?
This case ( the murder of JFK) is not at all complicated..... However, it becomes a convoluted mess in the hands of LBJ's "Special Select Blue Ribbon Committee" (aka The Warren Commission. ) Any reasonably intelligent person can look at the witness reports for Friday 11/ 22 / 63 and know with 99% certainty that Lee Harvey Oswald did not shoot JFK. If a open minded intelligent person concentrates on the evidence and statements of witnesses for Friday 11/22/63 it's very obvious that the WC was NOT interested in investigating and baring the truth to the American public.....It's obvious that their goal was to distort and discredit the eyewitness accounts, and cover up the truth.
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Why do many CT's allow themselves to be manipulated and mislead by the lies?
This case ( the murder of JFK) is not at all complicated..... However, it becomes a convoluted mess in the hands of LBJ's "Special Select Blue Ribbon Committee" (aka The Warren Commission. ) Any reasonably intelligent person can look at the witness reports for Friday 11/ 22 / 63 and know with 99% certainty that Lee Harvey Oswald did not shoot JFK. If a open minded intelligent person concentrates on the evidence and statements of witnesses for Friday 11/22/63 it's very obvious that the WC was NOT interested in investigating and baring the truth to the American public.....It's obvious that their goal was to distort and discredit the eyewitness accounts, and cover up the truth.
What is the purpose of this OP?
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What is the purpose of this OP?
I think he wants us to agree with him that the evil, evil, evil Military Industrial Intelligence Community Complex murdered JFK, just like mobbed-up Jim Garrison, KGB operative Mark Lane, and Oliver "I Like Putin and My Son Works for RT!" Stone said.
-- MWT ;)
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What is the purpose of this OP?
It is an attempt to get CT's to open their eyes and realize that the WR is a crock!... Once a person realizes that the WR is a crock, they should be smart enough to refrain from using it in an attempt to support some theory.
A smart CT will understand that the WR is the gospel of the LNer....
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A smart CT will understand that the WR is the gospel of the LNer....
Thats an oxymoron.
*smiley face*
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Just to note here that Mr. Cakebread says that LBJ was going to announce that Castro was behind the assassination and then use that claim as a pretext to invade Cuba.
But Mr. Cakebread says that LBJ learned, shortly before the announcement, that the Soviet Union had sent bombers loaded with nuclear weapons - the planes were on their way - to bomb the US. So LBJ decided to cancel his announcement. And the Soviets called the planes back.
Of course there isn't a single shred of evidence for any of this. It's completely made up.
If you believe anything that Mr. Cakebread says on this terrible event then you're making a big mistake. But you'll have to figure that out for yourself.
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Just to note here that Mr. Cakebread says that LBJ was going to announce that Castro was behind the assassination and then use that claim as a pretext to invade Cuba.
But Mr. Cakebread says that LBJ learned, shortly before the announcement, that the Soviet Union had sent bombers loaded with nuclear weapons - the planes were on their way - to bomb the US. So LBJ decided to cancel his announcement. And the Soviets called the planes back.
Of course there isn't a single shred of evidence for any of this. It's completely made up.
If you believe anything that Mr. Cakebread says on this terrible event then you're making a big mistake. But you'll have to figure that out for yourself.
Wow!...Thank you Mr Gutbreath..... The fact that you are desperately trying to discredit me is a compliment. You clearly recognize that I'm someone to be muzzled..... And just for your enlightenment ( because you're clearly ignorant.) There were U-2 photos that revealed that the missiles in Cuba were being moved onto their launch pads.... And Russia was launching bombers .... LBJ nearly soiled his skivvies when he learned of those events, and he realized that they would have to scrub their plans to attack Cuba.
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Wow!...Thank you Mr Gutbreath..... The fact that you are desperately trying to discredit me is a compliment. You clearly recognize that I'm someone to be muzzled..... And just for your enlightenment ( because you're clearly ignorant.) There were U-2 photos that revealed that the missiles in Cuba were being moved onto their launch pads.... And Russia was launching bombers .... LBJ nearly soiled his skivvies when he learned of those events, and he realized that they would have to scrub their plans to attack Cuba.
Well, maybe since Oswald shot Kennedy, none of this matters. Go from there, be on the square+
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I would be content if it were just Oswald the lone nut as the WC proposed and there were no MIC and no CIA involvement and it was just a horrible event that no one in the security community could have anticipated.
Problem is that there were persons who knew Oswald, associated with Oswald, whom were themselves VIPs and connected with what is now called “the deep state”, formerly referred to as “shadow government”.
This kind of evil comprises members across several agencies which include
mafia” of which some members such as Jack Ruby play double roles as a nexus between the “good” and the “bad” elites
in this particular case, the “good, the bad, and the “ugly” elites reached a consensus that JFK was their common denominator disrupting their interconnected criminal enterprises and in the case of the CIA, their very existence given JFKs public declaration to “scatter them to the winds”
The final verdict was reached at the secret meeting of LBJ when the justification was concocted that JFK had become a “national security threat” and that he should be removed by whatever means necessary.
And 50 years, lo and behold, that same kind of rhetorical and incendiary language is used by another CIA director and repeated by media to threaten removal of a US President
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I would be content if it were just Oswald the lone nut as the WC proposed and there were no MIC and no CIA involvement and it was just a horrible event that no one in the security community could have anticipated.
Problem is that there were persons who knew Oswald, associated with Oswald, whom were themselves VIPs and connected with what is now called “the deep state”, formerly referred to as “shadow government”.
This kind of evil comprises members across several agencies which include
mafia” of which some members such as Jack Ruby play double roles as a nexus between the “good” and the “bad” elites
in this particular case, the “good, the bad, and the “ugly” elites reached a consensus that JFK was their common denominator disrupting their interconnected criminal enterprises and in the case of the CIA, their very existence given JFKs public declaration to “scatter them to the winds”
The final verdict was reached at the secret meeting of LBJ when the justification was concocted that JFK had become a “national security threat” and that he should be removed by whatever means necessary.
And 50 years, lo and behold, that same kind of rhetorical and incendiary language is used by another CIA director and repeated by media to threaten removal of a US President
I suppose that I will never be able to believe that anyone with prior knowledge of the 11/22/'63 assassination attempt, would allow themselves to be in DealeyPlaza at 12:30pm CST, in an open top automobile, on Elm St anywhere between Houston St and the Triple RR Underpass.
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Larry, the incident of Thomas Arthur Valet in Chicago was ample warning enough of some plot underway
besides all the bumper stickers and the JFK “traitor” pamphlets from such anti Kennedy persons known by FBI and actually recorded predicting the method of disassembled rifle from high building window
As well as the known FBI surveillance of Oswald and the Hosty note from Oswald that was coincidentally destroyed
As well as Hosty feigning ignorance of the motorcade route let alone prior knowledge that Oswald the defector was currently employed in TSBD
As well as a high probability that George DeMorensheild knew of the MC rifle Oswald had and likely also deduced that Oswald had shot at General Walker
The breaking of SOP for Secret Service to ride on the JFK limo and LBJ ducking before shots are fired
The mistress recount of the secret LBJ meeting the night of Nov 21/63
The reversal of JFK foreign policy concerning Vietnam by LBJ only 3 days after the assassination
The owner of the TSBD , Harold Byrd, close friend of LBJ, receives billion dollar contract to build A7 fighter/bomber planes to be deployed in the Vietnam “new policy” ie: 180 000 boots on ground
Gulf of Tonkin fake red flag event
The “ Wink” photo of LBJ beside the grieving Jackie Kennedy with the blood still on her dress
And this all before even getting into the Joint Chiefs of Staff and General Curtis LeMay
And before even the issue with the Mafia boss whom JFK had kidnapped and dropped into SA jungle whom managed to survive, returned to USA and vowed to “ cut off the head of the snake
Connected therefore to Jack Ruby who is connected with Oswald
IDK for certain,Larry, but IMO, these “Coincidences” add up to a high probability of many persons with pre knowledge of a Dealey Plaza attempt to be made and some of them, like Jack Ruby, And LBJ were there
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Larry, the incident of Thomas Arthur Valet in Chicago was ample warning enough of some plot underway
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I am not so sure....
JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters - Page 203
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1439193886
James W. Douglass - 2010 - Preview - More editions
Why He Died and Why It Matters (https://books.google.com/books?id=KS-6XrdalGkC&pg=PA203&dq=james+douglass+%22vallee+was+driving+at+the+time++of+his+arrest*%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAGoVChMIn_mMqJbmxgIVwR0-Ch1DHg49) James W. Douglass. States. ...Hugh Larkin, a retired..... The registration for the license plate on the car
Thomas Arthur Vallee was driving at the time of his arrest was classif ied—restricted to U.S. intelligence agencies. The two Chicago
The retired police officer who made the license plate license plate inquiry was unauthorized and was blocked from
receiving the info for his relative (son-in-law, Chris Hester, working at NBC Chicago for Bill Corley) who worked for an NBC news affiliate.:
http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10448&search=hester_AND+nbc#relPageId=10&tab=page and
http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62272&relPageId=50&search=larkin
http://www.hvpress.net/news/138/ARTICLE/4293/2008-05-14.html
An Odyssey for Truth and Justice May 14th, 2008 By Ed McCarthy
......The license plate and registration on the 1962 Ford Falcon that Vallee was driving on November 1st in Chicago
was New York Registration License plate # 311-ORF and was registered in the name of Lee Harvey Oswald.
This is 21 days prior to President Kennedy’s assassination and the world knowing the name Oswald. .....
Skolnick did not get the correct information on the New York Registration.
http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=40391&relPageId=263&search=311-0rf_AND%20falcon
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I would be content if it were just Oswald the lone nut as the WC proposed and there were no MIC and no CIA involvement and it was just a horrible event that no one in the security community could have anticipated.
Problem is that there were persons who knew Oswald, associated with Oswald, whom were themselves VIPs and connected with what is now called “the deep state”, formerly referred to as “shadow government”.
This kind of evil comprises members across several agencies which include
mafia” of which some members such as Jack Ruby play double roles as a nexus between the “good” and the “bad” elites
in this particular case, the “good, the bad, and the “ugly” elites reached a consensus that JFK was their common denominator disrupting their interconnected criminal enterprises and in the case of the CIA, their very existence given JFKs public declaration to “scatter them to the winds”
The final verdict was reached at the secret meeting of LBJ when the justification was concocted that JFK had become a “national security threat” and that he should be removed by whatever means necessary.
And 50 years, lo and behold, that same kind of rhetorical and incendiary language is used by another CIA director and repeated by media to threaten removal of a US President
BRAVO, Zeon...... Thumb1: This is probably your best post !! I couldn't have said it better, and doubt that anybody can improve your post......