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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Marjan Rynkiewicz on March 24, 2021, 08:54:24 AM
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Oswald's shot-2 was at Z218.
Working backwards, Zapruder is startled at Z318 Z319 Z320, which is 5 frames after Hickey's 4 or 5 shots at Z313 Z314 Z315 Z316 Z317. Zapruder is 84ft from Hickey, & the speed of sound is 343 m/s or 63ft per frame, so that takes 1.3 frames. Deducting 1.3 from 5 gives a startle reaction time of 3.7 frames.
Zapruder is startled at frames Z224 to Z229. Deducting 3.7 from Z224 gives Z220.3. Zapruder is 264 ft from Oswald, for which the sound takes 4.2 frames. Hence Oswald shot at Z216.1. The slug moved at say 2000 fps, & Oswald is 184 ft from JFK, hence the slug takes 0.09 sec, which is 1.6 frames. Adding 1.6 to Z216.1 gives Z217.7 as the time that JFK is hit, ie say Z218.
Z218 has always been my estimate based on Connally's testimony re Connally's turning movements. He said he was turned/looking right, then turned to look over his left shoulder but only got halfway there when the slug hit him. That right to left turn can only have happened whilst Connally was hidden by the sign, & Z218 is dead center in that period.
Re Oswald's shot-1, this happened some time before Z133, Z133 being Zapruder's first frame of that sequence. We know where shot-1 happened, it happened at the signals, the shot ricocheting off the signal arm. But when is not known. If it was a half limo length before Z133 then at 1 ft per frame that makes shot-1 at Z123. A full limo makes it Z113.
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No evidence that Oswald fired even a single shot.
Fred
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No evidence that Oswald fired even a single shot. Fred
I am sure that Oswald fired 2 shots. I know that there are some suspicious fishy things that dont seem to add up. But all in all i reckon that Oswald acted alone, & that he made a quick decision alone, & that he had some kind of silly half baked escape plan to get to Mexico.
The evidence etc & witness statements etc are a problem. Much of it contradictory. Lies. Confusing. The smartest of us will of course be better able to sort out the mess. Me myself i spend say 6 hrs per day amusing myself with learning about Einsteinian problems, & having gone as far as i can with that stuff & if i say so myself becoming the world authority on gravity & the bending of light & equivalence & relativity & especially on the Michelson & Morley & Miller aetherwind experiments etc i got bored & 8 weeks ago i got back to looking at JFK stuff, having already in 2018 learnt from Donahue & Menninger & McLaren & Co that Hickey accidentally killed JFK with an AR15 01, & that Oswald's first shot ricocheted off the signal arm, & that Oswald's 2nd shot was the magic bullet.
So, as with Einsteinian stuff, i was surprised to see that little ol me could see that Hickey fired an auto burst of say 4 or 5 shots, & that little ol me was the only person saying so. Suddenly lots of evidence & statements make sense. How kum no-one else can see. Of course lots of persons know, but are keeping quiet, because thats their job.
On this forum i have mentioned lots of little things that have become apparent to me because i have the benefit of "knowing" the truth, knowing the truth allows me to work backwards, to quickly see what is bullspombleprofglidnoctobuns, saving time. And i had the help of lots of persons much smarter than me, who have put in lots of good work, but all of them suffered some kind of blindness, & they all kept walking past the door to the truth. In 8 weeks i saw only one reference to this door, ie that Hickey possibly fired an auto burst of many shots, & that author didnt bother to look inside.
I found Oswald's shot-2 boring, my main interest was in Oswald's shot-1, & in Hickey shot-12345. But i was surprised that experts couldnt even agree on something as simple as shot-2, like when it happened. The only puzzle for me concerns the movement of Connally's jacket lapel at Z224, it suggests a shot at Z224. The answer is that it was the wind. The black lapel might have been sticking out squarish since the shot at Z218, this black on black sticking out being invisible to Zapruder on his view angle, & then a small puff of backdraught did the trick at Z224.
[edit 1sept2021][the slug exited a long way away from the lapel]
I was expecting to find lots of Hickeyians on this forum, but Hickeyians left long ago, & i will follow shortly, today might be my last day here, i might look from time to time. There is little more i can do here, i came here to learn, not to teach. I dont mind stupid comments, they are a good opportunity to improve my game, but in the end we have pearls & swine (with all due respect to swine), & i paid for an argument not for abuse.
If ever The 6th Floor Museum unlock the 2019 copys of Bronson's footage then i & everyone else will have something to chew on (ie re Hickey's shots).
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I am sure that Oswald fired 2 shots. I know that there are some suspicious fishy things that dont seem to add up. But all in all i reckon that Oswald acted alone, & that he made a quick decision alone, & that he had some kind of silly half baked escape plan to get to Mexico.
The evidence etc & witness statements etc are a problem. Much of it contradictory. Lies. Confusing. The smartest of us will of course be better able to sort out the mess. Me myself i spend say 6 hrs per day amusing myself with learning about Einsteinian problems, & having gone as far as i can with that stuff & if i say so myself becoming the world authority on gravity & the bending of light & equivalence & relativity & especially on the Michelson & Morley & Miller aetherwind experiments etc i got bored & 8 weeks ago i got back to looking at JFK stuff, having already in 2018 learnt from Donahue & Messenger & McLaren & Co that Hickey accidentally killed JFK with an AR15 01, & that Oswald's first shot ricocheted off the signal arm, & that Oswald's 2nd shot was the magic bullet.
So, as with Einsteinian stuff, i was surprised to see that little ol me could see that Hickey fired an auto burst of say 4 or 5 shots, & that little ol me was the only person saying so. Suddenly lots of evidence & statements make sense. How kum no-one else can see. Of course lots of persons know, but are keeping quiet, because thats their job.
On this forum i have mentioned lots of little things that have become apparent to me because i have the benefit of "knowing" the truth, knowing the truth allows me to work backwards, to quickly see what is bullspombleprofglidnoctobuns, saving time. And i had the help of lots of persons much smarter than me, who have put in lots of good work, but all of them suffered some kind of blindness, & they all kept walking past the door to the truth. In 8 weeks i saw only one reference to this door, ie that Hickey possibly fired an auto burst of many shots, & that author didnt bother to look inside.
I found Oswald's shot-2 boring, my main interest was in Oswald's shot-1, & in Hickey shot-12345. But i was surprised that experts couldnt even agree on something as simple as shot-2, like when it happened. The only puzzle for me concerns the movement of Connally's jacket lapel at Z224, it suggests a shot at Z224. The answer is that it was the wind. The black lapel might have been sticking out squarish since the shot at Z218, this black on black sticking out being invisible to Zapruder on his view angle, & then a small puff of backdraught did the trick at Z224.
I was expecting to find lots of Hickeyians on this forum, but Hickeyians left long ago, & i will follow shortly, today might be my last day here, i might look from time to time. There is little more i can do here, i came here to learn, not to teach. I dont mind stupid comments, they are a good opportunity to improve my game, but in the end we have pearls & swine (with all due respect to swine), & i paid for an argument not for abuse.
If ever The 6th Floor Museum unlock the 2019 copys of Bronson's footage then i & everyone else will have something to chew on (ie re Hickey's shots).
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I am sure that Oswald fired 2 shots.... that Oswald acted alone & that he had some kind of silly half baked escape plan to get to Mexico.
Well dog my cats.... The Warren Report was sure he fired 3 shots and that he had no escape plan at all.
So maybe write another book. Who knows? It might be a best seller :-\
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Well dog my cats.... The Warren Report was sure he fired 3 shots and that he had no escape plan at all.
So maybe write another book. Who knows? It might be a best seller :-\
I have to admit that i dont know what any of the i think it is 3 official reports sez. Praps i did read parts, i forget. And i dont have any books re jfk, praps i have read snippets if free on google. I might buy the donahue & menninger & mclaren books, probly say $20. Actually silly me i should look in my local library.
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Cuckoo...
Whats your belief re who when where how for the shots?
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Whats your belief re who when where how for the shots?
Oswald/CuckooNest/3Shots/twofer
Oswald/KilledTippit
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Oswald/CuckooNest/3Shots/twofer
Oswald/KilledTippit
I reckon that Oswald fired only twice (not counting Tippit). The jfk headshot wasnt a carcano fmj slug.
The whole saga is a bewildering series of unlikely events.
The witness statements are a mess, so contradictory. Not helped by the leading questions. And the tampering with evidence. And the destruction of footage.
The police were the worst witnesses, worse than the ordinary citizens. But the truth is in there, hidden by rubbish.
Surprisingly our best clues come from the Secret Service themselves, as they should, they of course lied to coverup Hickey's actions, but they had to hedge their lies early on while they didnt know which way things would go, & thems little scraps of truth now help us to solve the case.
We need to see the 2019 copy of Bronson's 20 frames. The 2017 copy is too blurry, But that concerns Hickey's shots, not Oswald's shot-2 which is the topic of this thread.
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The Hickey shot JFK theory was debunked long ago.
Fred
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The Hickey shot JFK theory was debunked long ago. Fred
No the debunking has been debunked by myself & others.
See my thread, the top link in the links below.
Hickey fired a 4 or 5 shot auto burst.
My pix in my postings keep loozing their link, koz Google Photo & Google Site keep changing the links almost every time i log on there, so i have to type in the new links some days. I now tend to use Flickr, i think they dont mess up their links, but they only allow small images on their free website. Still thinking.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2836.0.html
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2833.0.html
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,118.msg108350.html#msg108350
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,118.0.html
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2853.0.html
Look at all of my posts. Link below.
But my ideas re what happened have evolved over the 8 weeks i have been here, so some of my earlier ideas are a little or a lot wrong.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=674
Here below is my drawing which might be lost in some of the above threads/links.
U need to download & magnify. Damn flickr.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51066608678_90afba963a_m.jpg)
Here it is in google photos, if it works, needs luck.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cxO8C2ELqz6E6hfJzrZI9J0ZvmaQEgMxAlWTDGVg7rIQRIuRG_84HLzaPWuHIiy2NPO9uDq3azBz0tCy7AbmXwYKpRj7EZQCv0ct0GcW5v3R-qqTwHRn-AEGZVw0TJjoej5EoCue-WihGk0LbYPC-1=w1406-h250-no?authuser=0)
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No the debunking has been debunked by myself & others.
See my thread, the top link in the links below.
Hickey fired a 4 or 5 shot auto burst.
My pix in my postings keep loozing their link, koz Google Photo & Google Site keep changing the links almost every time i log on there, so i have to type in the new links some days. I now tend to use Flickr, i think they dont mess up their links, but they only allow small images on their free website. Still thinking.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2836.0.html
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2833.0.html
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,118.msg108350.html#msg108350
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,118.0.html
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2853.0.html
Look at all of my posts. Link below.
But my ideas re what happened have evolved over the 8 weeks i have been here, so some of my earlier ideas are a little or a lot wrong.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=674
Here below is my drawing which might be lost in some of the above threads/links.
U need to download & magnify. Damn flickr.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51066608678_90afba963a_m.jpg)
Just + your browser window, Marjan
(https://i.postimg.cc/PJPSwxFw/hickey-marjan.png)
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Just + your browser window, Marjan
(https://i.postimg.cc/PJPSwxFw/hickey-marjan.png)
Thanx for that.
Ok i found how to magnify the image using my google chrome. Hence i didnt have to download & save the image first, & then open with say microsoft office, & then magnify, ie it saved me all of that trouble.
But how did u manage to embed that there larger image in your posting?
Anyhow the magnified (free) flickr images are usually too grainy, i might go back to using (free) google photos or (free) google sites. I think that a one photo per album trick might prevent them from changing their damned image address every time i log on. I might have to use my wife's computer to get the image address so that i dont auto log on. Auto log on apparently auto sets the screen etc on edit mode i think which then gives a new address or something to some photos when one gets out of edit mode or something.
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No the debunking has been debunked by myself & others.
When you debunk a debunk would it be a rebunk?
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Thanx for that.
Ok i found how to magnify the image using my google chrome. Hence i didnt have to download & save the image first, & then open with say microsoft office, & then magnify, ie it saved me all of that trouble.
But how did u manage to embed that there larger image in your posting?
Anyhow the magnified (free) flickr images are usually too grainy, i might go back to using (free) google photos or (free) google sites. I think that a one photo per album trick might prevent them from changing their damned image address every time i log on. I might have to use my wife's computer to get the image address so that i dont auto log on. Auto log on apparently auto sets the screen etc on edit mode i think which then gives a new address or something to some photos when one gets out of edit mode or something.
Marjan, sit tight for a day or two and I'll show you some stuff that might help you.
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When you debunk a debunk would it be a rebunk?
dedebunk -- undebunk -- yes needs its own good word.
The debunkers failed to explain JFK's head exploding, the cracked windshield, the dent in the chrome trim, the shots hitting tarmac & concrete in Elm St & Main St, Tague's bloody cheek, possibly the crater in the vertical corner of the concrete pier behind Tague.