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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Michael Welch on October 04, 2023, 06:40:19 PM
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In case you have ever wondered why Lee looked like this in his Dallas mugshot, it was because of Detective Paul Bentley and Dallas Canine Unit Patrolman Chandler Bentley. Sincerely yours, Michael
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Detective Paul Bentley did the damage to Lee's forehead above his right eye. It was done somehow with Paul's Masonic ring. Paul's nephew, C. F. Bentley, Jr., caused the damage to Lee's left eye by hitting it with the butt of his shotgun.
J.F.K.
Assassination
Articles
An Overlooked Texas Theater Witness (page 2)
By Bill Drenas
In 1967 he was contacted to organize the first police department and become the first police chief of Bella Vista, Arkansas. He remained police chief there for the next 18 years.
C. F. then began to tell us his story about the Texas Theater. Friday, November 22, 1963, was his day off from work. He was shopping for a new television set with his wife and young son at the Sears Roebuck store on West Jefferson Boulevard, in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. Suddenly, news about shots being fired at the president's motorcade in downtown Dallas appeared on the television sets that he was in the process of looking at. Then, there was an announcement calling for any off-duty police officers to report for duty. He immediately took his family to his car and drove to his home in the southwestern part of Oak Cliff. He quickly changed into his uniform and headed to the Dallas Police Southwest Substation on West Illinois Avenue that was located less than a mile from his home. When he arrived at the substation he went to the garage area where the police cars were kept and asked the mechanic for a vehicle. The mechanic told him to take whichever car was available and he took the next one up. He then went inside the substation and drew a shotgun. Because of the amount of heavy radio traffic he could not clear as a unit in service. At that point he began to run code 3 (red lights and siren) towards the location in downtown Dallas where the president had been shot. During the ride towards downtown Dallas, reports of an officer being shot in Oak Cliff were being broadcast over the police radio. C. F. decided not to go downtown, and instead began driving to the location where the officer had been shot since he was already in Oak Cliff.
When C. F. arrived at East 10th Street and Patton Avenue, he observed that the officer’s body had already been removed, and that several uniform officers and detectives were on the scene. The police dispatcher had broadcast a description of the suspect in the officer’s shooting as a white male wearing a white jacket and dark pants. C. F. spoke to the sergeant at the scene and was told to search the neighborhood for the assailant. Additional information was broadcast on the police radio stating that the suspect had taken his jacket off and thrown it behind a service station on East Jefferson Boulevard.
C. F. was driving south on Zangs Boulevard and had just turned east on West Jefferson Boulevard when a call came over the police radio saying that an unknown subject had entered the basement of the Oakland Public Library at the intersection of East Jefferson Boulevard and Marsalis Avenue. C. F. proceeded to the library along with several other squads that were available. The officers got out of their patrol cars, searched the building, and found out that the suspect in question was an employee of the library. All the officers re-entered their patrol cars and left the scene. C. F. began driving west on East Jefferson Boulevard. He was then sitting at a red light at the intersection of Zangs Boulevard and East Jefferson Boulevard. When the light turned green he traveled approximately 20 yards past the intersection when another police radio dispatch was broadcast that a suspect had entered the Texas Theater and was in the balcony. C. F. was almost directly in front of the Texas Theater at the time of this broadcast, and so he pulled into the first parking spot in front of the theater. He was the first squad to arrive there and as he got out of his car another arrived right after him. C. F. entered the front door of the theater with his shotgun and was told by a theater employee that the suspect had gone to the balcony. By this time there was another police officer beside him (name unrecalled) and they both went up the stairs to the balcony. As far as he could see there were 3 to 5 people in the balcony at that time, and he could hear voices saying turn up the house lights, but unfortunately the house lights were already on and it was still very difficult to see. At this time C. F.’s uncle Paul and another detective arrived in the balcony. Paul told C. F. to search everyone in the balcony and to get their names. Just as C. F. began to do this someone downstairs hollered, “The son of a As I was walking a' alane, I heard twa corbies makin' a mane. The tane untae the tither did say, Whaur sail we gang and dine the day, O. Whaur sail we gang and dine the day? It's in ahint yon auld fail dyke I wot there lies a new slain knight; And naebody kens that he lies there But his hawk and his hound, and his lady fair, O. But his hawk and his hound, and his lady fair. His hound is to the hunting gane His hawk to fetch the wild-fowl hame, His lady ta'en anither mate, So we may mak' our dinner swate, O. So we may mak' our dinner swate. Ye'll sit on his white hause-bane, And I'll pike oot his bonny blue e'en Wi' ae lock o' his gowden hair We'll theek oor nest when it grows bare, O. We'll theek oor nest when it grows bare. There's mony a ane for him maks mane But nane sail ken whaur he is gane O'er his white banes when they are bare The wind sail blaw for evermair, O. The wind sail blaw for evermair.' is downstairs!” All the officers turned and exited the balcony, ran down the stairs and turned left into the theater. As C. F. entered the seating area he could see an officer wrestling with a white male who had a pistol in his hand. As he approached Paul Bentley was off to his left. When they reached the two men who were fighting C. F. hit Lee Oswald in the face with a vertical butt stroke of his shotgun. Paul Bentley then punched Lee tearing some of the skin off Lee’s forehead with the Masonic ring that Paul wore on his hand. At this point several additional officers grabbed Lee and then C. F. heard someone shout, “I got his gun!” At this point the officers were able to get Lee under control and while they were handcuffing him C. F. pulled away from the scuffle. As Paul Bentley and other officers were removing the suspect from the front door of the theater C. F. went out with them. The officers then put the suspect in an unmarked police car and departed the scene. C. F. also left the scene, returned to the Southwest Substation, turned in the police car and shotgun, and returned home.
On Sunday, November 24, 1963, C. F. was at work patrolling district 63 when the dispatcher advised him to report code 3 to the basement of City Hall because Lee Oswald had been shot. As C. F. arrived at City Hall an ambulance was pulling out of the basement garage onto Commerce Street. C. F. fell in behind the ambulance and followed it code 3 to Parkland Hospital. At the hospital C. F. took over the employee's elevator and delivered blood from the basement to the operating room. After a while he finally obtained a key to override the employee’s elevator to expedite the blood delivery. At about the third time they delivered blood the medical staff told him to take it back as Lee Oswald had died. Stan Clark asked C. F. why he had not written a report. C. F. explained to us that he was never asked to write a report and there were probably several other officers present at the arrest who did not write a report either.
As we finished the interview C. F. asked if there were any photographs taken in or around the Texas Theater at the time of the arrest because he wanted to see if he was in any of them. I mentioned to him that there were a few photographs and that it might take me a while to get him copies of them. I then asked him if he had a photograph of himself in a Dallas Police uniform from approximately the time of the assassination. C. F. said he would have to look and would definitely get back to me on it. We then thanked him for his hospitality, said our goodbyes, and left.
At this point I would like to tell you about an observation I made during this interview. Even though I have interviewed many people in connection with the Kennedy assassination this interview was quite different. On several occasions I have interviewed witnesses who either refused to be tape-recorded, or if they did agree to be on tape they would tighten up quite dramatically once the tape recorder was turned on as compared to their casual conversation before the tape was started. When I asked C. F. if I could tape the interview he said that would be fine and when the tape recorder was turned on the relaxed and casual manner that he had shown us from the time we entered the house did not change at all.
After generating new information from an interview I try to in some way corroborate the information if possible.
I knew from interviewing Paul Bentley and also from his report of December 3, 1963 (Warren Commission Exhibit 2003, pp. 77-78, reproduced below) that C. F. was definitely at the Texas Theater during the arrest of Lee Oswald. This report mentions that Paul saw C. F. Bentley in the balcony of the Texas Theater in the second to last paragraph on page 1 of the report.
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Picture of Chandler on left hand side late in his life.
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More confirmation that Oswald pulled his gun on the arrest officers! The DPD had a justifiable opportunity to kill Oswald in the TT when he pulled a gun. It is ludicrous to argue that there was some plan to use Jack Ruby to silence Oswald. Imagine the plan. Arrest Oswald when he resists arrest and pulls a gun, parade him in front of the world press allowing him to say anything, and then recruit someone willing to commit murder at the police station in front of a national TV audience and rely on his silence for the rest of his life in jail or even facing the death penalty.
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“Richard” as usual has it all backwards. This egregious police misconduct was a good reason to make up a story about Oswald punching an officer and attempting to withdraw a pistol.
If he had really pulled out a gun, they would have shot him. Cops shoot people all the time for a lot less.
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Because the cops didn't shoot Oswald in the TT, that is somehow proof they were in on it? LOL. We are way down the contrarian rabbit hole. You have to love the contrarian version of "logic." Imagine suggesting that the DPD planted the gun on Oswald and then instead of killing him when they had every justification, they took him into custody and found someone to later kill him in police custody. But only after providing Oswald multiple opportunities to speak freely to the press and his family. Then they had to find a volunteer to kill him and spend the rest of his life in jail.
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“In on” what, Strawman “Smith”?
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"I saw this suspect pull a pistol from his shirt." So much for the planting the gun fantasy.
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That’s bullsh*t. Bentley was on his way down to the main floor from the balcony when the struggle began. Bentley also claimed that he was the one who got his hand stuck in the hammer of the revolver. Was he holding hands with McDonald?
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More confirmation that Oswald pulled his gun on the arrest officers! The DPD had a justifiable opportunity to kill Oswald in the TT when he pulled a gun. It is ludicrous to argue that there was some plan to use Jack Ruby to silence Oswald. Imagine the plan. Arrest Oswald when he resists arrest and pulls a gun, parade him in front of the world press allowing him to say anything, and then recruit someone willing to commit murder at the police station in front of a national TV audience and rely on his silence for the rest of his life in jail or even facing the death penalty.
Ruby stalking Oswald that weekend is proof enough for me he was chosen to silence him. The last thing DPD wanted was to kill their suspect and had no hand in any plot. Ruby would never break the Mafia's code of silence Omertà.
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Ruby stalking Oswald that weekend is proof enough for me he was chosen to silence him. The last thing DPD wanted was to kill their suspect and had no hand in any plot. Ruby would never break the Mafia's code of silence Omertà.
The DPD had several golden opportunities to kill Oswald with complete justification had they wanted to silence him. But you think the plan was to take Oswald into custody, allow him to speak to the world press, allow him to speak to members of his own family, then recruit an unstable Ruby to kill Oswald on national TV and then remain silent for the rest of his life in jail. And Ruby sleeps in that day, takes his dog with him to the hit, but only after stopping to send a meaningless money order which makes him nearly miss the transfer. Wow.
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The DPD had several golden opportunities to kill Oswald with complete justification had they wanted to silence him.
More “Richard” BS. They didn’t even have justification to search him or arrest him for murder, much less kill him.
Why do you think he was yelling “I am not resisting arrest” to the civilians in the theater? That’s one of the favorite excuses cops use for excessive or lethal force.
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The DPD had several golden opportunities to kill Oswald with complete justification had they wanted to silence him. But you think the plan was to take Oswald into custody, allow him to speak to the world press, allow him to speak to members of his own family, then recruit an unstable Ruby to kill Oswald on national TV and then remain silent for the rest of his life in jail. And Ruby sleeps in that day, takes his dog with him to the hit, but only after stopping to send a meaningless money order which makes him nearly miss the transfer. Wow.
The DPD did not want to kill him or silence him they had NO part in any plot. They were called and took him into custody. Oswald wasn't going to blab to anyone, or he would have done it. Unstable Ruby? More like crazy as a fox. He was at parkland after the shooting, and stalked Oswald that weekend waiting for his chance to kill him. Ruby knew damn well when Oswald was being moved and he didn't walk down the ramp either.
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The DPD did not want to kill him or silence him they had NO part in any plot. They were called and took him into custody. Oswald wasn't going to blab to anyone, or he would have done it. Unstable Ruby? More like crazy as a fox. He was at parkland after the shooting, and stalked Oswald that weekend waiting for his chance to kill him. Ruby knew damn well when Oswald was being moved and he didn't walk down the ramp either.
The DPD wasn't "in on it"? Tell that to your CT kindred who are claiming they planted the gun on Oswald at the TT etc. You think it is "crazy as a fox" to kill someone on national TV in the presence of numerous police officers and agree to spend the rest of your life in jail to cover up the involvement of someone else in a crime? And, of course, Ruby would bring his dog to the hit and also stop to send a meaningless money order thereby nearly causing him to miss the transfer of Oswald. That was some plan. How and why does Ruby plan his appearance at the Oswald transfer to the last second if this was a planned event? Particularly if you accept that the DPD was not involved in the conspiracy. There were no cell phones or means for Ruby to communicate in real time with anyone to learn exactly when Oswald was coming to down to the garage. It's ludicrous to think that Ruby could have been acting to pursuant to a plan. What happens if a couple more people were standing in front of him in line at the Western Union office?
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The DPD did not want to kill him or silence him they had NO part in any plot. They were called and took him into custody. Oswald wasn't going to blab to anyone, or he would have done it. Unstable Ruby? More like crazy as a fox. He was at parkland after the shooting, and stalked Oswald that weekend waiting for his chance to kill him. Ruby knew damn well when Oswald was being moved and he didn't walk down the ramp either.
If Ruby knew when/where/how Oswald was going to be moved then how can you say the DPD had "NO part in any plot"? Who told Ruby about the transfer details? Who else knew about them? How did he find out these details if the DPD weren't involved?
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The DPD wasn't "in on it"? Tell that to your CT kindred who are claiming they planted the gun on Oswald at the TT etc. You think it is "crazy as a fox" to kill someone on national TV in the presence of numerous police officers and agree to spend the rest of your life in jail to cover up the involvement of someone else in a crime? And, of course, Ruby would bring his dog to the hit and also stop to send a meaningless money order thereby nearly causing him to miss the transfer of Oswald. That was some plan. How and why does Ruby plan his appearance at the Oswald transfer to the last second if this was a planned event? Particularly if you accept that the DPD was not involved in the conspiracy. There were no cell phones or means for Ruby to communicate in real time with anyone to learn exactly when Oswald was coming to down to the garage. It's ludicrous to think that Ruby could have been acting to pursuant to a plan. What happens if a couple more people were standing in front of him in line at the Western Union office?
The people claiming that you're making "strawman arguments" about the role of the DPD are the same ones saying the revolver was planted, Oswald was railroaded, he was denied due process rights, witnesses were coerced into implicating him, police lineups were staged et cetera. But damned you Mr. Strawman, you're just making things up when you say they say the DPD was involved.
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That’s because railroading somebody for a crime is different from being involved in the crime.
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If Ruby knew when/where/how Oswald was going to be moved then how can you say the DPD had "NO part in any plot"? Who told Ruby about the transfer details? Who else knew about them? How did he find out these details if the DPD weren't involved?
Ruby was friends with many on the force, does that mean they were involved in a plot? No. I'm sure when he asked, they told him without suspicion.
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The people claiming that you're making "strawman arguments" about the role of the DPD are the same ones saying the revolver was planted, Oswald was railroaded, he was denied due process rights, witnesses were coerced into implicating him, police lineups were staged et cetera. But damned you Mr. Strawman, you're just making things up when you say they say the DPD was involved.
Our contrarian CTers are like Inspector Clouseau. They suspect everyone, and they suspect no one. All the evidence is potentially the product of fakery but they are not suggesting anyone faked the evidence. If they did fake the evidence, that doesn't mean they were involved in the conspiracy to kill JFK and Tippit etc. Round and round they go down the rabbit hole. There are so many logical inconsistencies that you have to wonder if they really believe their own nonsense or if they are "just here for argument" like in the Monty Python skit.
Here we learn that for some unspecified reason that the DPD might have planted the gun on Oswald to frame him for the Tippit murder but these police officers might not be in on the larger conspiracy to kill Tippit. There are multiple parallel conspiracies going on. It is just a miraculous coincidence that all these conspirators are working for a common purpose. Imagine the luck of the JFK/Tippit conspirators behind these crimes that the DPD decided to plant a gun on Oswald to frame him for the Tippit crime. Which is exactly what they wanted to happen! What is the contrarian evidence that the DPD framed Oswald by planting this gun? Because in the history of law enforcement there have been SOME instances in which the police framed a suspect. That is it. The DPD decided on the fly to frame some guy at the TT for the murder of a fellow police officer. Quick as a bunny they found a spare gun that could not be traced to anyone to plant on him. Not caring that perhaps the real murderer would go free or worse for them be arrested bringing into question the "discovery" of the murder weapon on Oswald. They just had it in for Oswald - who they didn't know from anyone. Why not plant the gun on the guy at the library? A contrarian mystery. What is the proof for all this? None. It is just "possible" or at least not "impossible" to disprove the possibility to their subjective satisfaction. Lunacy.
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The only Monty Python skit here is all the strawman nonsense “Richard” invokes to distract from his inability to prove any bit of what he is claiming to be true.
It doesn’t work.
Nobody claimed that anybody planted a gun on Oswald at the theater. They didn’t have to. There’s no evidence that CE143 was ever at the theater.