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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Warren Cox on May 21, 2024, 05:31:10 AM
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New to the forum so unsure if this has been discussed before
At the extreme left of the Altgens 6 and cropped out of most copies is the side view of a man in a grey hat who looks very similar to the photo of Ruby in the basement before shooting Oswald Both this man and the construction worker in the hard hat are not looking at the motorcade
I have some photos but cannot work out how to insert them in the post if someone can advise
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Use Postimages site.
After uploading the photo to this site there is an option to save it for a forum. Hit that then paste in the Post Reply box
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(https://i.postimg.cc/tJ1V4KrJ/Jack-Ruby-On-Right-Via-NBC-TV-Raw-Footage-In-DPD-Basement-11-24-63.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfYr3gCm/absolute-proof-the-altgens-photo-was-altered-i-20-2.jpg)
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There are other photos of what appears to be that same man near the entrance to the TSBD. I don’t remember off the top of my head which photos they are. But I believe that in one of them the clarity is clear enough so that it does indicate that he is not Jack Ruby. Maybe someone will respond with the other photos. Also, there is credible evidence that Ruby was in the newspaper offices at the time. It is interesting that both this man and the construction worker appear to be looking toward the TSBD (where the shots originated). I would assume that would be their reaction to the sound of the shot(s).
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It's difficult to recognize anyone in those grainy b&w films and photos. It's not Ruby, though, because he was in the presence of several witnesses several blocks away.
WC:
Jack Ruby learned of the shooting of President Kennedy while in the second-floor advertising offices of the Dallas Morning News, five blocks from the Texas School Book Depository, where he had come Friday morning to place regular weekend advertisements for his two nightclubs.849 On arriving at the newspaper building at about 11 or 11:30 a.m., he talked briefly with two newspaper employees concerning some diet pills he had recommended to them.850 Ruby then went to the office of Morning News columnist, Tony Zoppi, where he states he obtained a brochure on his new master of ceremonies that he wanted to use in preparing copy for his advertisements. 851 Proceeding to the advertising department, he spoke with advertising employee Don Campbell from about noon until 12:25 p.m. when Campbell left the office.852 In addition to the business at hand, much of the conversation concerned Ruby's unhappiness over the financial condition of his clubs and his professed ability to handle the physical fights which arose in connection with the clubs.583 According to Campbell, Ruby did not mention the Presidential motorcade nor did he display any unusual behavior.854
About 10 minutes after the President had been shot but before word had spread to the second floor, John Newnam, an advertising department employee, observed Ruby sitting at the same spot where Campbell had left him.
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New to the forum so unsure if this has been discussed before
At the extreme left of the Altgens 6 and cropped out of most copies is the side view of a man in a grey hat who looks very similar to the photo of Ruby in the basement before shooting Oswald Both this man and the construction worker in the hard hat are not looking at the motorcade
I have some photos but cannot work out how to insert them in the post if someone can advise
there are photos of a man wearing sun glasses who bore resemblance to Ruby and who some have said was Ruby , the man (i dont know if he has been named ) was near the depository . i dont know if its the same man you refer to .but the man i speak of was not Ruby .i am in agreement with other posts here regarding his whereabouts . i will say that his whereabouts for me atleast cast doubt on his supposed devotion to his beloved president . i mean JFK his beloved president is passing by him very near to him , and yet he makes zero effort to go and see him . surely what business he had could have waited 10 or 20 minutes while he went and saw jfk ? .
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From Victoria Adams' WC interview:
"There was a man that was standing on the corner of Houston and Elm asking questions there. He was dressed in a suit and a hat, and when I encountered Avery Davis going down, we asked who he was, because he was questioning people as if he were a police officer, and we noticed him take a colored boy away on a motorcycle, and this man was asking questions very efficaciously, and we said, "I guess he is maybe a reporter," and later on on television, there was a man that looked very similar to him, and he was identified as Ruby.
And on questioning some police officer, they said they had witnesses to the fact that he was in the Dallas Morning News at the time. And I don't know whether that is relevant or what."
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And 2 blue and 1 red hard hats in the Hughes film - believe there was construction going on further down Houston While looking at the construction worker's movements on the left side of Zapruder (easy to spot as he's next to a lampost) and thinking it may have been Jim Hicks as he is dressed the same apart from the hard hat, looked at the inside curve of Elm near the ponds where Hicks was supposed to be and there is an identical guy sitting on the wall - blue hard hat, khaki shirt and slightly darker trousers They could be twins
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZC1NVr76/dealey-plaza-witnesses-at-Z-150.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZC1NVr76)
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From Victoria Adams' WC interview:
"There was a man that was standing on the corner of Houston and Elm asking questions there. He was dressed in a suit and a hat, and when I encountered Avery Davis going down, we asked who he was, because he was questioning people as if he were a police officer, and we noticed him take a colored boy away on a motorcycle, and this man was asking questions very efficaciously, and we said, "I guess he is maybe a reporter," and later on on television, there was a man that looked very similar to him, and he was identified as Ruby.
And on questioning some police officer, they said they had witnesses to the fact that he was in the Dallas Morning News at the time. And I don't know whether that is relevant or what."
I would love to see a photo that shows Ruby driving Euins away on a police motorcycle…. :D
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I would love to see a photo that shows Ruby driving Euins away on a police motorcycle…. :D
Although she doesn't specify Euins or a police motorcycle, she must surely be talking about Harkness and Euins on his three-wheeler, but Harkness is in uniform and looks absolutely nothing like Ruby.
As far as I'm aware, the only time Euins is on the back of the three-wheeler is when he is being taken from the railroad area to the front steps of the Depository building, so Adams would have seen him arriving rather than being taken away.
Unless she's talking about a completely unrelated incident it doesn't make sense.
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Although she doesn't specify Euins or a police motorcycle, she must surely be talking about Harkness and Euins on his three-wheeler, but Harkness is in uniform and looks absolutely nothing like Ruby.
As far as I'm aware, the only time Euins is on the back of the three-wheeler is when he is being taken from the railroad area to the front steps of the Depository building, so Adams would have seen him arriving rather than being taken away.
Unless she's talking about a completely unrelated incident it doesn't make sense.
It appears to me that her memory is faulty (inaccurate, mixed up, etc regarding some of the details). A prime example of why we should not think that we can rely on witness accounts to be totally accurate in all respects.
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George H.W. Bush is on somewhere there in Dealey plaza too 🙂
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