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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Warren Cox on May 23, 2024, 06:24:47 AM
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Thanks for posting that. The detail beats the cutting edge technology used on the Zapruder Film for "The Lost Bullet". What immediately jumps out at me is the Stark contrast between the footage Before and After the JFK Limo suddenly appears in the film. The early motorcycle cop footage is brighter and has sharper detail than what we see after the JFK Limo appears. The clarity of this film also displays how extremely short the time period was between the Kill Shot and the blood/brain matter "Halo" completely vanishing from the film. CIA Image Expert Dino Brugioni knew what he was talking about when he said the Zapruder film he examined/worked with on 11/23/63 showed the Halo for a longer period of time.
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Not sure on this as it seems to be part of the film that's missing but several things aren't right - the crowd on the left is wrong there is shade on the sidewalk on the left which isn't in Zapruder and the film is taken from further back - you can see the whole of the Stemmons sign. People are waving and jumping up and down and the limo hasn't arrived yet and exact opposite in Zapruder not a single wave from that group Maybe film from one of the re-enactments made to look old?
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Not sure on this as it seems to be part of the film that's missing but several things aren't right - the crowd on the left is wrong there is shade on the sidewalk on the left which isn't in Zapruder and the film is taken from further back - you can see the whole of the Stemmons sign. People are waving and jumping up and down and the limo hasn't arrived yet and exact opposite in Zapruder not a single wave from that group Maybe film from one of the re-enactments made to look old?
Possibly a reenactment for the JFK movie or something similar. Time of day and/or time of year is wrong (the shadows give that much away).
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The 4K post of the Zapruder Film is exceptional. (Between the sprocket holes included). That other motion picture "thing" is pure baloney and does nothing but cast doubt on the 4K Zapruder Film. Stay away from that garbage and stick with what you know is legit.
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A re-enactment by Oliver Stone for the JFK movie
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Warren Cox, your link takes us to a copy of the Zapruder film that is absolute rubbish. Watching the film in real time (See below) without removing objects in the film like that copy does, isn't presenting the facts as they happened, and people like Rooyell Storing just love it for that fact. The head matter during the fatal shot tells the story about where the fatalk bullet comes from-THE REAR.driving brain and skull forward and upward. Skull fragments were found that afternoon within hours of the shooting several yards ahead of where the limousine was at the time of the fatal shot. The top of JFK's head was blown off, and this film, along with the Orville Nix and Marie Muchmore films corroborate each other.
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The variety of different reactions from the various spectators is fascinating. Some are hitting the ground while others don't react at all. It just brings home how sudden and shocking the event was. Something that is lost in all the pedantic analysis of every frame.
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The variety of different reactions from the various spectators is fascinating. Some are hitting the ground while others don't react at all. It just brings home how sudden and shocking the event was. Something that is lost in all the pedantic analysis of every frame.
Sudden, surprising, and shocking, watching the film at normal speed shows us how fast it really happened. Even Charles Brehm (who said he immediately recognized the loud noises as rifle shots) can be seen apparently still standing and clapping “long after” JFK has obviously been shot. Brehm did eventually hit the dirt, but it took some time for that to happen. Pierce Allman said that no one around him appeared to react to the first loud explosion with anything other than surprise and looking around.
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It's different in a war zone. Most would hit the ground at the first shot. A domestic situation is different, where violence is not expected. In DP, I would say most remained in their "comfort zone" for the first two shots. Many dismissed the first report as a "backfire" or "firecracker". There's no obvious gunman and there are urban structures that distort the sound waves. On hearing the third shot and (if they were in a suitable position) seeing the head shot, only then did a few hit the ground, including the Newmans. Some, like a man on the stairway on the knoll, and the Hesters tried to be less in the open. The Wiegman film shows hardly any panic in the crowd even after the head shot (could be they thought it was just firecrackers). If the siren came on just before the head shot, that could indicate to some the reality of what they were witnessing.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/c2/68/YcJtbBBa_o.gif)
I don't know if its been discussed before, but I spotted a woman turning her head sharply rightward beginning in the Z160s; she's turned forward again by Z193. It could mean something as regards the first shot; it could mean nothing. That's one reason why the JFKA "controversy" drags on, with no end in sight. Things in the film (not exactly HD to begin with) can be interpreted in a variety of ways.
I think that that’s significant as evidence of a first shot around that time. It seems to me that Rosemary Willis is also reacting similarly about that same time. Also, if you look at the camera right (the woman’s left) just coming into the cropped frame the lady with the gold or yellow garment seems to jump a little higher than would normally be expected and her right elbow and shoulders rise up higher than might be expected. Did a sudden explosive noise cause her to react that way? I think that if we could study her motions just before this clip starts, it might be more apparent whether or not that is a startled jump.
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And what about the contrasting "reaction" from the people standing on the (N) side of Elm St? Their "reaction" mirrors that of a Cigar Store Indian. Stick with the Nix Film and the unexplained White Shirt Man running Up-The-Steps. The Original Nix Film has been MIA for decades for a very good reason.
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Easy for you to say. Does anyone really know what this clip is and where it came from. It's definitely not Zapruder. Can't be for a motion picture because Hollywood usually does a better job. You can see the white advance car and the people are actually WAVING like one would expect. What is this? Could it be from the rumored "other" film?
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The one with the white lead car in it is a re-enactment for Oliver Stone's movie JFK and has been made to look very low quality to look like a '60's home movie
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Thx. That makes some sense. But...still. The people waving seems more authentic than the frozen people in Zapruder. Unless someone knows otherwise, I'm keeping this as another open question. Is there any evidence that it's from Oliver Stone???
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Yep Just watched JFK the movie and the clip appears (or part of it) in the first 10 minutes The problem with the movie is that original footage is enhanced and mixed with new footage made to look old and it becomes very hard to separate fact from fiction
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Yep. You are 100% correct.
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Yep Just watched JFK the movie and the clip appears (or part of it) in the first 10 minutes The problem with the movie is that original footage is enhanced and mixed with new footage made to look old and it becomes very hard to separate fact from fiction
The above sounds like the Nix Film vs the other assassination photos/film showing the 3 guys standing at the lower portion of The Steps. The Nix Film shows a White Shirt Man moving Up-The-Steps. Yet, the other images show none of the 3 guys standing at the bottom of The Steps to be wearing a White Shirt. How can this be?
The Willis #5 Photo shows 2 Guys standing at the bottom of The Steps. Yet, the other images of this same area at almost the same point in time shows 3 Guys. Emmett Hudson was 1 of these people standing at the bottom of The Steps. The other(s) have never been ID'd by law enforcement. During his Warren Commission testimony, Emmett Hudson detailed ONLY 1 person standing with him as the JFK Limo approached and then the shots rang out. All of these ambiguities clearly reveal that there is something Wrong with these JFK Assassination Images.
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The above sounds like the Nix Film vs the other assassination photos/film showing the 3 guys standing at the lower portion of The Steps. The Nix Film shows a White Shirt Man moving Up-The-Steps. Yet, the other images show none of the 3 guys standing at the bottom of The Steps to be wearing a White Shirt. How can this be?
The Willis #5 Photo shows 2 Guys standing at the bottom of The Steps. Yet, the other images of this same area at almost the same point in time shows 3 Guys. Emmett Hudson was 1 of these people standing at the bottom of The Steps. The other(s) have never been ID'd by law enforcement. During his Warren Commission testimony, Emmett Hudson detailed ONLY 1 person standing with him as the JFK Limo approached and then the shots rang out. All of these ambiguities clearly reveal that there is something Wrong with these JFK Assassination Images.
You've already been schooled on the blurry Willis photo, there was always 3 men on the steps and you can see Hudson partially obstructed by the man in front. In Nix the three are very clear.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPKf8kkq/willis-5-bb.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8ctzt3BZ/429032593-animatedclipfrommuchmorefilm.gif)
Moorman's photo also shows the three men and was on the UPI network the very next day!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8H7vsk2/Moorman-UPI-23-11-63.jpg)
Btw why on Earth would they remove 1 of the men from Willis, what on Earth would that prove??
JohnM
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@ John Mytton, the black male on the steps with Emmet Hudson and the other guy, he runs up the steps, right. From frames 410 onwards, why isn't he seen anywhere in the Z-film? when clearly by this time he made it to the top of the steps into knoll/wall area?
There's no obvious evidence of his breakneck speed effort to get up the steps.
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There is a small sign attached to the light pole (E) of the 2 GUYS standing on The Steps. There is NOT 3 GUYS standing on The Steps. Hudson wore WHITE PANTS that day. The 2 Guys we see on the Willis Photo are wearing Very DARK Pants. Where do we see any trace of Hudson's Bright WHITE PANTS on the Willis Photo YOU Posted? The Hudson WHITE PANTS should be a stark contrast vs the Dark Pants of the 2 Guys standing near him. The White Pants vs Dark Pants contrast is VIVID on the Film snippet you posted. You have defeated your 3 Guys claim.
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(https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/Wil2.jpg)
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@ John Mytton, the black male on the steps with Emmet Hudson and the other guy, he runs up the steps, right. From frames 410 onwards, why isn't he seen anywhere in the Z-film? when clearly by this time he made it to the top of the steps into knoll/wall area?
There's no obvious evidence of his breakneck speed effort to get up the steps.
Hi Robert, that's an interesting question, let's examine the facts.
1. Zapruder's camera was set up at the camera's zoomed in position.
2. From Zapruder's perspective he panned to the Fort Worth Turnpike sign about 6 seconds after the head shot and subsequently about 6 seconds after the black man turned and started moving up the steps.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hvby74gH/z427.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8ctzt3BZ/429032593-animatedclipfrommuchmorefilm.gif)
3. From Zapruder's perspective the Fort Worth sign was not far off the line of sight as the initial position of the three men.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxDFTz7f/Dealey-plaza-1963-grassy-knoll.jpg)
4. By the time Zapruder got to the fence area, the time was about 7 seconds since the black man turned and hurried up the steps.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jqzk1cNZ/z454.jpg)
Therefore the black man was long gone by the time Zapruder was in a position to film the black man!
JohnM
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There is a small sign attached to the light pole (E) of the 2 GUYS standing on The Steps. There is NOT 3 GUYS standing on The Steps. Hudson wore WHITE PANTS that day. The 2 Guys we see on the Willis Photo are wearing Very DARK Pants. Where do we see any trace of Hudson's Bright WHITE PANTS on the Willis Photo YOU Posted? The Hudson WHITE PANTS should be a stark contrast vs the Dark Pants of the 2 Guys standing near him. The White Pants vs Dark Pants contrast is VIVID on the Film snippet you posted. You have defeated your 3 Guys claim.
1) The three men are clearly visible in Moorman's photo which BTW was on the UPI network on the very next day.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8H7vsk2/Moorman-UPI-23-11-63.jpg)
2) The three men are clearly visible in Muchmore's film.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8ctzt3BZ/429032593-animatedclipfrommuchmorefilm.gif)
3) The three men are clearly visible in Nix's film.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Ls8ncxnf/Nix-film-3-men.gif)
(https://i.postimg.cc/prxgLpfj/0246.jpg)
Why Royell why, would "they" remove the third man from a blurry relatively obscure photo?? Please explain why "they" wouldn't remove this third man from ALL the imagery??
(https://i.postimg.cc/KY1m7w19/Groden-Willis5.jpg)
JohnM
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(https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/Wil2.jpg)
Thanks for posting that GHOST IMAGE. Does anyone on this Forum really see 2 Heads in close proximity to each other on the posted Willis Photo? Does anyone on this Forum really see the Flesh Tones from 2 different Faces in close proximity to each other on the posted Willis Photo? Of course not! And where oh where is the WHITE COLOR from the Hudson pant legs, or the WHITE COLORING atop his head? NONE of any of this is visible on the Willis Photo because a 3rd Person is Not There.
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These Assassination Images clearly contradict each other. Conjuring up "Ghost Images" does Not explain this blatant contradiction.
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And where oh where is the WHITE COLOR from the Hudson pant legs, or the WHITE COLORING atop his head? NONE of any of this is visible on the Willis Photo because a 3rd Person is Not There.
Logic and the use of common sense should tell you, and anyone else with a logically functioning Brain, that the Whitening of the Pants is for Illustrative Purposes Only, ie, for those People like yourself, No Insult Intended ::) whose Eyesight is clearly not very good for the analysis and detection of the logical content contained in less than perfectly clear unaltered Images.
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Oh I get it. Do NOT believe what you actually see in these 2 images. Instead, employ some kind of "logic" to explain away how 2 people can somehow become 3 people in a matter of seconds. We consistently have people on this Forum swearing by the "images". They lecture us that photos and films "do not lie". That JFK Assassination photos and films are FACT. Now, when we have 2 JFK Assassination images that clearly contradict each other, we Now are getting a, "these are Not the droids you're looking for" dismissal. Basically, we are Now being told to ignore what we are seeing and use a "Mind Over Matter" approach. Well, we fully realize that we have the droids right in front of us, and we will Not be diverted by a wave of Obi-Wan Kenobi's hand.
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These Assassination Images clearly contradict each other. Conjuring up "Ghost Images" does Not explain this blatant contradiction.
C'mon Royell, stop embarrassing yourself.
All the images from that day are in perfect synchronicity and so far you have failed dismally to prove otherwise.
And the fact that Willis 5 is blurry and we can still see one man standing partially in front of another proves your go nowhere theory is simply just another fragment of your imagination. Much like your previous observations of the missing Police antennae on the lead car at Parkland or your theory that in the Nix Film, Elm street went uphill! No offence or anything, but you seriously can't make up your level of pure incompetence.
Btw when are you going to explain all 3 men being visible in Moorman, Muchmore and Nix, and why nobody bothered to erase the third man from these images? On the other hand don't bother even trying because you have no answers!
JohnM
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C'mon Royell, stop embarrassing yourself.
All the images from that day are in perfect synchronicity and so far you have failed dismally to prove otherwise.
And the fact that Willis 5 is blurry and we can still see one man standing partially in front of another proves your go nowhere theory is simply just another fragment of your imagination. Much like your previous observations of the missing Police antennae on the lead car at Parkland or your theory that in the Nix Film, Elm street went uphill! No offence or anything, but you seriously can't make up your level of pure incompetence.
Btw when are you going to explain all 3 men being visible in Moorman, Muchmore and Nix, and why nobody bothered to erase the third man from these images? On the other hand don't bother even trying because you have no answers!
JohnM
Excellent response to Royell's total nonesense, as always, John.
Exhibit A. The man standing next to his wife in front of the park bench, is the man standing next to Emmett Hudson during the assassination on the stais on the knoll during the shooting.
Exhibit B is the same man, at the upper portion of the stairs now, turned, with his back to the camera, running for cover after witnessing the fatal shot.
Exhibit A: (https://i.imgur.com/0nGrJ1z.png) Exhibit B: (https://i.imgur.com/BqjIuKm.png)
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If you look at the Muchmore Footage, you can CLEARLY see the Stark Color Difference between this man's Long Sleeve Shirt/Sweater vs the WHITE undershirt he is wearing. There is absolutely No Confusing the stark contrast between the color of the long sleeve shirt vs the undershirt. None. To my eye, this man moving Up-The Steps on the Nix Film is wearing a WHITE Short Sleeve Shirt or a White Shirt with the sleeves rolled up. I see skin tone from roughly the mid arm area downward.
The Nix Film CLEARLY shows a man in a TOTALLY WHITE SHIRT moving Up-The-Steps.
So now we have the Baseless Claim being made that this man in the Long Sleeve Shirt is also married and has a child? You're now "jumping the shark".
I am not claiming this long sleeved man is missing from the Willis Photo. What is missing is Emmit Hudson and his WHITE PANT LEGS and the WHITE on the top of his head. None of any of this is visible in the Willis Photo. The 2 pant legs would be at roughly ground level and extending Upward roughly 3 feet. The WHITE on the top of his head would be roughly 6 feet above ground. That's a Lot of Brightly Colored Space to totally Vanish from the Willis Photo.
And let's Not Forget that Hudson's WC Testimony DETAILS only 1 Man being with him on The Steps Before, During, and After the Assassination.
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C'mon Royell, stop embarrassing yourself.
All the images from that day are in perfect synchronicity and so far you have failed dismally to prove otherwise.
And the fact that Willis 5 is blurry and we can still see one man standing partially in front of another proves your go nowhere theory is simply just another fragment of your imagination. Much like your previous observations of the missing Police antennae on the lead car at Parkland or your theory that in the Nix Film, Elm street went uphill! No offence or anything, but you seriously can't make up your level of pure incompetence.
Btw when are you going to explain all 3 men being visible in Moorman, Muchmore and Nix, and why nobody bothered to erase the third man from these images? On the other hand don't bother even trying because you have no answers!
JohnM
or your theory that in the Nix Film, Elm street went uphill!
:D :D :D
That is truly awesome.
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I continue waiting for a Fact Based response to: (1) Seeing absolutely No Trace of Emmett Hudson on the Willis Photo, and/or (2) White Shirt Man moving Up-The-Steps on the Nix Film. Telling the viewer to use "logic" or "common sense" vs what they actually See, (or do Not see), in the Willis Photo vs The Muchmore Film, vs The Nix Film reveals a serious problem between these contrasting images. The images on ALL 3 can Not be true. It's no mystery why Hudson is the only person that Law Enforcement ID'd. Hudson did maintenance work on the Dealey Plaza grounds. It would have been only a matter of time until Hudson's identity along with his story of Only 1 Man being on The Steps with him became known.
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or your theory that in the Nix Film, Elm street went uphill!
:D :D :D
That is truly awesome.
Yeah, Royell couldn't understand that Nix's camera was being held with a slight rotation and insisted that the Nix film was yet another set of altered images, because as he says, Elm street was going uphill away from the depository!? But when I pointed out the obvious fact that the light pole was also off kilter, he suddenly or hopefully saw the light and then happily went hunting for another Royell sized anomaly.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJNbVVvK/Nix-rotation.gif)
JohnM
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Still waiting for Anyone on this Forum to supply Evidence that explains the obvious ambiguity between what we see on the Willis Photo vs The Muchmore Film. Hudson was wearing Long White Pants. The Bright White on the top of Hudson's head was also highly visible. Where is even a trace of any of this on the Willis Photo? And then we have the White Shirt Man moving Up-The-Steps. You guys keep telling us that the "images do Not lie" Yet, now you go crickets.
I already Proved that Officer Haygood is NOT the motorcycle cop back inside the train yard on the Darnell/Martin Films. And I have also exposed the White Shirt Man on the Nix Film. I am currently wrapping up yet another Discovery. Those of you claiming to be JFK Assassination Researchers should apologize for your dereliction of duty.
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And I have also exposed the White Shirt Man on the Nix Film.
Sorry Royell, but the man seen running up the steps in a good quality Nix film frame grab is wearing a brown shirt.
And your looking at a poor multigenerational, heavily compressed YouTube video isn't evidence of anything. LOL!
(https://i.postimg.cc/prxgLpfj/0246.jpg)
BTW your track record is littered with provable hallucinations and bizarre nonsense, do you honestly think that you are a believable JFK Assassination Researcher or are you just a fraudulent observer with delusions of grandeur?
JohnM
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OK, so why don't you post one of these claimed, "good quality Nix film frame grab" that you contend shows a "Brown" shirt? Why? Because it does Not exist. You are merely repeating what you have heard/been told. Every single time I have seen this Nix Snippet, it clearly shows the man moving Up-The-Steps to be wearing a WHITE SHIRT. Even the one posted on this thread clearly shows a White Shirt. So why don't you just shut me up and Post That, "GOOD QUALITY NIX FILM FRAME GRAB"? And please, STOP re-posting those Ghost Images that have been gobbed onto the Willis Photo. THAT is Not "evidence". It smacks of something right out of a "Scooby-Doo" cartoon. But this is where you guys are. Posting cartoons and repeating BS: like your, "good quality Nix Film frame grab" that shows a "Brown" shirt on the guy moving Up-The-steps. I am eagerly waiting for you to POST THAT "Good Quality Nix Film Frame Grab" showing a "Brown" shirt. I Double Dog Dare you.
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Simple:
Light Brown Cardigan/Sweater With White Coloured Shirt Underneath The Cardigan/Sweater :)
(http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/Cardigan.gif)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoMkxyLnER5bZ1aY26eWvN09IGP0oQdQPl5A&s)
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Take a GOOD LOOK at that Nix Film Snippet that has been repeatedly posted on this thread. The BACK of the man moving Up-The-Steps is ENTIRELY WHITE. The Muchmore Film shows a man pivoting on The Steps. This man is wearing a COLORED Cardigan. The BACK of the Man on the Nix Film and the BACK of the Man on the Muchmore Film, show 2 different Men wearing differently colored shirts. The 2 shirt colors are not even close. Perhaps somebody will post that, "good quality Nix Film Frame Grab" that has been ballyhoo'd on this Forum. I'm anxious to see this groundbreaking piece of evidence. I hope this does Not turn out to be like the alleged "2nd Zapruder Film" we hear about but Never do see.
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Take a GOOD LOOK at that Nix Film Snippet that has been repeatedly posted on this thread. The BACK of the man moving Up-The-Steps is ENTIRELY WHITE. The Muchmore Film shows a man pivoting on The Steps. This man is wearing a COLORED Cardigan. The BACK of the Man on the Nix Film and the BACK of the Man on the Muchmore Film, show 2 different Men wearing differently colored shirts. The 2 shirt colors are not even close. Perhaps somebody will post that, "good quality Nix Film Frame Grab" that has been ballyhoo'd on this Forum. I'm anxious to see this groundbreaking piece of evidence. I hope this does Not turn out to be like the alleged "2nd Zapruder Film" we hear about but Never do see.
Just post the image you mean and clear all this up.
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Sorry Royell, but the man seen running up the steps in a good quality Nix film frame grab is wearing a brown shirt.
And your looking at a poor multigenerational, heavily compressed YouTube video isn't evidence of anything. LOL!
(https://i.postimg.cc/prxgLpfj/0246.jpg)
BTW your track record is littered with provable hallucinations and bizarre nonsense, do you honestly think that you are a believable JFK Assassination Researcher or are you just a fraudulent observer with delusions of grandeur?
JohnM
Dan - I bumped this for you. The above is the claim of a "good quality Nix film grab" showing a BROWN shirted man moving Up-The-Steps. I have never seen this alleged Nix "good quality" Film showing a Brown Shirted Man moving Up-The-Steps. Like you, I would like to view it. I have requested such, and continue waiting for it to be posted here on this Forum.
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Dan - I bumped this for you. The above is the claim of a "good quality Nix film grab" showing a BROWN shirted man moving Up-The-Steps. I have never seen this alleged Nix "good quality" Film showing a Brown Shirted Man moving Up-The-Steps. Like you, I would like to view it. I have requested such, and continue waiting for it to be posted here on this Forum.
The source of clear "Good Quality" Nix Frames was Gayle "Nix" Jackson.
Gayle sent me a DVD containing the "Large Version" of all the frames, as for the film using the "half size frames" in my image gallery.
I have posted the GIF on this forum multiple times.
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Nix "Rotation Correction" GIF.
(https://public.boxcloud.com/api/2.0/files/807599152947/content?preview=true&version=864234986547&access_token=1!zSowMFveIIgrzdqS7Qy4XPsn4mIGntxTJOZ3QnPrEq81RSnQQlOBhcNQbuMjQT6iHF--zDrVNcBtrhBKnRRue8KO7KhGKGTMwKQDWGt-YK7dlrKiehZ0OROcW3wAt747Xmbu76qH7coDMXMkWiEltvj8JfsiopS_EsnuOYWbbmumMaAJQ_i9P2V4DASiCz9IE8p53uKy3o9eq0KTLF2d41pvgnRfQibOq2u5l5wO0d5HDIpdHdWO3YeUHKKVnPPGiOHfoF0oZjQ97cz4MTHFsvb5UTVmiuX_hlD7S4xCxUEaYGjvtIsmS7Ov_9FY2MBW0dkDYD9PmeBecmGeu3wy7yQMpeDfbI0Iig14tjC8sStwgq7vjCcpYjyOfF3KUKTr7lMuo9yK6TYHEqPKZygSM4EjzOPSEzWvJf4FRaAWoZ6c3mOjH6noKKwaZveWmYE7fuIB7pb8zSAZqlRK11W0u9ib3W9qy8NXfOYSuT2VBmS5tKkAEBj4hhUi99u8AS51GSTEs8Rt4HYvMA50JjEQxNURlUvSgWkSCDHrbYpva0xsKr3oWnjItZxtWLv3YgU33kYO4UgJet68u7h-fRaaFjsPgT8MdBhQEqzpKw..&shared_link=https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Frcxbalbwf7jmxkk7mm4xcxghkfu635t6&box_client_name=box-content-preview&box_client_version=2.109.0)
https://app.box.com/s/rcxbalbwf7jmxkk7mm4xcxghkfu635t6 (https://app.box.com/s/rcxbalbwf7jmxkk7mm4xcxghkfu635t6)
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Thanks for posting that Nix GIF. That GIF again PROVES that the man moving Up-The-Steps is wearing a WHITE SHIRT. He is NOT wearing a Brown Sweater and certainly NOT a sweater that extends down over his (R) arm. We can clearly see the Flesh Tone on his (R) Arm against that WHITE SHIRT. I believe this is why the Original Nix Film is MIA. That WHITE SHIRT does Not match the upper body attire of any of the 3 Men standing on The Steps in the Muchmore Film, and certainly Not the man pivoting on The Steps as the JFK Limo travels past him. The JFK Assassination Research Community should have discovered this ambiguity in the Nix Film many decades ago. But no, they instead focus all their attention on trying to find a Badge Man in the bushes, or a hat above the other side of the picket fence, or Oswald standing outside the TSBD when the JFK Limo passed by it, etc. All the while, glaring ambiguities like this WHITE SHIRT MAN are missed. And this glaring ambiguity does Not stand alone. There are others.
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(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/Gayle%20Nix%20Jackson%20Frames/0245.jpg)
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Robin - Thanks for posting the above Nix Still Frame.
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Robin - Thanks for posting the above Nix Still Frame.
Why are you thanking Robin for posting the Nix frame?
It clearly shows the person in question is NOT wearing a white shirt.
Can't you see that you're totally wrong.
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To help you out, Royell, I've pointed to some things that are actually white so you can compare it to the colour of the "shirt" being worn by the man on the stairs.
What do you think?
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The man alleged to have run up The Steps is alleged to be wearing a LONG Sleeve BROWN Cardigan Sweater. What we see here is Nowhere close to the color Brown across this man's entire back. The flesh tone of his (R) Arm/Elbow is also present in this frame. Some might quibble with the degree of Whiteness in the SHORT Sleeve Shirt we see he is wearing, but that shirt is far, far closer to White vs Brown. There is No Contest. And, the Whiteness of his Shirt contrasts with the Darkness of his pants. A brown shirt would Not present this Clash of contrasting colors. Also, in this still frame we can see that patches of the Knoll grass are dying and turning BROWN. This "browning" of the grass is common in The South as the cooler temperatures of Fall/Winter hit that region of the USA. Compare the BROWN patches of grass to the WHITE Shirt that completely covers this man's back. There is No Comparison to the contrasting color of his White Shirt vs those Brown patches of grass that we see in this Nix Still Frame.
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I have never joined a forum before, so please excuse my naivety. I started researching the JFK shooting 25-30 years ago. I slowed down my research around 2008, and just recently starting looking at it again. I can only find copies of the Zapruder film that has a narrower scope than I had seen before, as well as deep editing of frame cuts. Even the 4K on here seems to be a much more edited version than I saw before. I know I will never see the actual uncut version of the film, but there use to be a much better one available. Does anyone know how to get a copy of the less edited version?