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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Tom Graves on February 12, 2025, 12:59:02 AM
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How much, if any, of the evidence against Lee Harvey Oswald was planted?
For example:
Were the three shells found on the floor of the "Sniper's Nest" planted there?
Was the Carcano that allegedly belonged to Oswald planted on the sixth floor of the TSBD?
Were Oswald's fingerprints planted on two of the four strangely positioned boxes in the "Sniper's Nest"?
Were Oswald's palmprint (under the wood stock on the barrel) and fingerprint (on the trigger guard) planted on the Carcano?
Was the man Howard Brennen saw at the sixth-floor window during the shooting planted there?
Was Brennan lying?
Was Wesley Buell Frazier lying when he said he saw Oswald carry a long package towards the TSBD rear door on 11/22/63?
Was the long paper bag with Oswald's fingerprints on it that was allegedly found in the "Sniper's Nest" planted there?
Was the revolver that allegedly belonged to Oswald planted on him when he was arrested in the Texas Theater?
Was Lee Harvey Oswald, himself, planted in the TSBD when he was hired to work there?
Was the wallet that allegedly belonged to Oswald and which was allegedly found at the Tippit murder scene planted?
Was Oswald planted in the first-floor "Domino Room" or the second-floor lunchroom during the shooting?
Were the "backyard photographs" of Oswald with his two guns and two Communist newspapers forged and planted?
Were the Ruth Paine garage blanket-similar fibers that were allegedly found on the Carcano planted on it?
I could go on and on.
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Don't forget that whatever the conspirators put in place to set Oswald up as the patsy is totally separate from whatever the authorities set up in order to convict Oswald.
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Don't forget that whatever the conspirators put in place to set Oswald up as the patsy is totally separate from whatever the authorities set up in order to convict Oswald.
Geez Jim, how complicated are you trying to make this?
This isn't as simple as planting a bag of weed on Oswald or at his house, but you have many levels of evidence with layers of paper trails, a variety of witnesses, medical experts, ballistic experts and ETC who all have to be in on "it" to successfully pull "it" off?
But if it was simply Oswald, then that's it!
JohnM
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Don't forget that whatever the conspirators put in place to set Oswald up as the patsy is totally separate from whatever the authorities set up in order to convict Oswald.
You mean leaving certain things out of the Warren Report 1) to prevent Nuclear Armageddon because in 1962 Kremlin-loyal Aleksei Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA at the Bureau's NYC field office) led the FBI and the CIA to believe that KGB Colonel Valery Kostikov -- whose radioactive name Kremlin-loyal triple agent Ivan Obyedkov "volunteered" to an Oswald impostor over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phone line on 10/1/63 -- must be "Department 13" because his (Kostikov's) charge at the U.N., Igor Brykin, was, according to FEDORA, "Department 13", or 2) to help the bad guys get away with the "hit"?
*It's interesting to note that the CIA's official historian, David Robarge, wrote a few years ago that the CIA never did determine whether or not Kostikov was "Department 13."
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Don't forget that Oswald could have been involved with the conspirators (without knowing that the hit would be a the TSBD that day), hence the paper trails etc.
Once the patsy was captured, the authorities (who had nothing whatsoever to do with the assassination plot) manipulated/created evidence in order to give the American people and the rest of the world their lone gunman. Neat and tidy.
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Don't forget that Oswald could have been involved with the conspirators (without knowing that the hit would be a the TSBD that day), hence the paper trails etc.
Once the patsy was captured, the authorities (who had nothing whatsoever to do with the assassination plot) manipulated/created evidence in order to give the American people and the rest of the world their lone gunman. Neat and tidy.
But the paper trail regarding the rifle started way back in March, so now we're playing the loooong unpredictable game, and just hoping that a ton of random events all just happen to line up? Really?
JohnM
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But the paper trail regarding the rifle started way back in March, so now we're playing the loooong unpredictable game, and just hoping that a ton of random events all just happen to line up? Really?
JohnM
It's perfectly possible that Oswald ordered the rifle - for whatever reason.
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It's perfectly possible that Oswald ordered the rifle - for whatever reason.
Thank you, Oswald ordered the rifle in March, Kleins sent the rifle shortly thereafter, then just a little later Oswald was photographed with the rifle in the backyard of his Neely street residence, a residence which Oswald plum forgot about when he was interrogated and then a few weeks later, Oswald used the rifle in his General Walker assassination attempt.
So yeah the reason Oswald ordered the rifle was to kill!
JohnM
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Thank you, Oswald ordered the rifle in March, Kleins sent the rifle shortly thereafter, then just a little later Oswald was photographed with the rifle in the backyard of his Neely street residence, a residence which Oswald plum forgot about when he was interrogated and then a few weeks later, Oswald used the rifle in his General Walker assassination attempt.
So yeah the reason Oswald ordered the rifle was to kill!
JohnM
Yes but not necessarily JFK. The plotters could have put things in motion to make sure that rifle would be found at the TSBD.
There is of course the other possibility that he was one of the shooters that day, up there with his rusty rifle.
What is certain is that he wasn't a lone nut.
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Yes but not necessarily JFK. The plotters could have put things in motion to make sure that rifle would be found at the TSBD.
There is of course the other possibility that he was one of the shooters that day, up there with his rusty rifle.
Da! Da! Da!
Oodles and gobs of bad guys!
The more the better!!!
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Yes but not necessarily JFK. The plotters could have put things in motion to make sure that rifle would be found at the TSBD.
There is of course the other possibility that he was one of the shooters that day, up there with his rusty rifle.
What is certain is that he wasn't a lone nut.
Yes but not necessarily JFK.
I thought I made that clear, Oswald bought the rifle 10 months before the JFK assassination and from the timing, it's pretty obvious that he first wanted to use it on General Walker.
The plotters could have put things in motion to make sure that rifle would be found at the TSBD.
Or maybe Oswald went home uncharacteristically on a Thursday to get it himself?
There is of course the other possibility that he was one of the shooters that day, up there with his rusty rifle.
The only bullets and fragments recovered came specifically from Oswald's rifle.
What is certain is that he wasn't a lone nut.
Certain? Present your evidence and it will be considered!
JohnM
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I thought I made that clear, Oswald bought the rifle 10 months before the JFK assassination and from the timing, it's pretty obvious that he first wanted to use it on General Walker.
If he bought it, it doesn't prove that he shot it from the TSBD. It is possible though (though not as a lone nut).
Or maybe Oswald went home uncharacteristically on a Thursday to get it himself?
Debated.
The only bullets and fragments recovered came specifically from Oswald's rifle.
But did he shoot it? Debated.
Certain? Present your evidence and it will be considered!
The evidence is all over this forum and it helps one to arrive at a conclusion. One way or the other.