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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on March 11, 2025, 12:40:50 PM
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The Parkland Doctors, Part One
Some conspiracy theorists maintain that the Parkland doctors conclusions about JFK's wounds means that there were two shooters. But were their observations unanimous? And does it even matter what they thought?
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-parkland-doctors-part-one (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-parkland-doctors-part-one)
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"To think that these doctors were able to fully understand Kennedy's wounds is a silly proposition..."
This could be one of the dumbest things you ever said.
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Six of the ER doctors who treated JFK were interviewed the day of the assassination and then two days later by a Texas medical publication - the Texas State Journal of Medicine. This is, as far as I know, the earliest accounts they gave about the location of the head wound (excluding the press conference).
Here is, summarizing things, what they said about the location:
Perry: "...a large wound of the right posterior cranium was noted..."
Baxter: "...portions of the right temporal and occipital bones were missing..."
McClelland: "..massive head and brain injury from a gunshot wound of the right side of the head."
Bashour: no description given
Clark: The wound was in the "occipital region of the skull" and there was "a large wound beginning in the right occiput extending into the parietal region."
Jenkins: "There was a great laceration on the right side of the head (temporal and occipital)..."
So we have the location on the right side of the head, the right and back side of the head, and the posterior side of the head.
Question: Which account is correct?
Answer: Let's have an autopsy.
Link to interviews: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth599863/m1/104/?q=McClelland
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All at the right rear of the head.
https://jfk.boards.net/post/7707/thread
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The above Professional Medical Observations made by the Parkland Dr's is Exactly why the SS had to steal the body of JFK.
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"To think that these doctors were able to fully understand Kennedy's wounds is a silly proposition..."
This could be one of the dumbest things you ever said.
Fred has presented in-depth extensive research into forensic science with trauma specialists, forensic radiologists, some of the original Parkland Doctors and ETC. and I believe that he is absolutely right. And a quick look at "Part 2" continues his valuable research.
These authenticated autopsy photos when recombined with technology unheard of in 1963 or even decades later definitively show no massive wound on the back of Kennedy's head, only a bullet entrance.
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The Zapruder film at the time of impact shows forward motion on only Kennedy and expelled matter out the front in the region above Kennedy's right ear and not one of the many people who saw Kennedy after said that there was more than one massive wound.
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JohnM
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Yep. The Current Zapruder Film clearly shows "forward motion". It also shows Jackie PULLING DOWNWARD on JFK as she tries to see whatever he is clutching at in his upper chest/throat area. Her pulling DOWNWARD on him is causing JFK's Head to slightly tilt forward/downward.
With respect to the "matter", how is it that DPD Motorcycle Hargis riding on the (L) Rear of the JFK Limo was struck with "matter" with such force that he thought he had been "hit", yet Jackie did Not get splattered on her face or upper torso? (As we see when she crawls across the Limo trunk lid).
And the 46 yr old Gov Connally "Gumby Esque" actions on the Zapruder Film are an absolute joke. Connally does Not have the space inside the JFK Limo to turn around in his jump seat and EYEBALL JFK FACE-TO-FACE. There are points in their journey across Dallas that Connally did turn to talk with JFK. Connally has to lean back in that jump seat to speak with JFK from a PROFILE physical position. There is Not enough space between the Connally jump seat and the Limo side door for Connally to turn around and face JFK Face-To-Face. This is obvious at Love Field when Connally boards the JFK Limo and the side door is Gently closed, along with the physical actions of Connally during that ride through Dallas. The Connally "contortionist act" depicted on the Zapruder Film is Not Possible due to the physical restrictions imposed on him by the JFK Limo. Much like that Cartoon of the JFK Corpse having its' hair pulled, so too are these Cartoon like actions of Gov Connally inside the JFK Limo as seen on the Zapruder Film. The Assassination Film to watch is the NIX FILM. You know, the film that shows a WHITE SHIRT MAN running up-the-steps? Even though NONE of the 3 men standing at the bottom of The Steps was wearing a WHITE SHIRT? Which explains why the NIX FILM has been missing for decades.
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Among other things, Fred quotes the doctors themselves - in press interviews, in their testimony, in speeches, in their own writings (!) - where they admit to being confused or where they give confusing and contradictory accounts. It's all there.
The "back of the head" proponents love to cite McClelland. The Thompson drawing (which he didn't make), et cetera. But McClelland wrote three hours after the assassination that the cause of death was a wound to the *left* side of JFK's head. He wrote that. A few days later he's interviewed by a medical journal and says the wound was on the *right* side of the head. Then later he says back/rear of the head. So what account should we believe? If any?
But this is all dismissed as Bugliosi and Posner hearsay?
In any case, no reasonably intelligent person is going to accept the judgments about wounds on a person from ER doctors who spent 20 minutes trying to save the patient's life versus the judgments of autopsy doctors who examined that same patient for four hours. Especially when the latter have the physical evidence supporting them. Who thinks the ER doctors would be better, more accurate? Conspiracy world is another universe, another realm where up is down and down is up as long as it support a conspiracy.
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I believe what I actually see/hear or the "signed off" written word/diagram of a Dr. I do NOT Cavalierly accept whatever Bugliosi and Posner WRITE. They're motivation is the selling of books. And they're both lawyers, so there's that too.
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Is it the conspiracy view on the location of the head wound that if 45 witnesses said "back of the head", another 10 said "back and side of the head", and another 8 witnesses said "side of the head" that the correct location of the head wound is determined by the most number of witnesses? The 45?
So 45 is more than 18 therefore it's back of the head? It's the most number? Really? Is this how you look at this question?
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Depends on the witness/witnesses. Put yourself inna jury box. NOT every alleged witness you hear/see holds the same level of credibility. This is Not a "numbers" game.
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One conspiracist cites the numbers and another says it's not the numbers. They need to get their stories straight.
Once again the key point isn't addressed: Fred cites the original sources, the statements by the doctors on this question. He includes interviews, public statements, speeches and their own writings. They are contradictory, confusing, inconsistent, vague and, *as they admit*, based on a rushed, hurried examination of JFK. Shorter: they couldn't know about the wounds; they were too busy with saving his life. The response is to dismiss all of this as mere hearsay.
In order to answer this confusion an autopsy was performed. X-rays and photos taken. They show with no doubt that the wound was not in the back of the head but the top and right side of the head. Just as Zapruder said and just as his film shows. Problem solved.
But if the response is this was all altered and then covered up for decades; that Democrats and Republicans, who hate each other and can't agree on what to have for lunch, all got together to carry this cover up out all of these years then never mind. Because you are living in a fantasy world.
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One conspiracist cites the numbers and another says it's not the numbers. They need to get their stories straight.
Once again the key point isn't addressed: Fred cites the original sources, the statements by the doctors on this question. He includes interviews, public statements, speeches and their own writings. They are contradictory, confusing, inconsistent, vague and, *as they admit*, based on a rushed, hurried examination of JFK. Shorter: they couldn't know about the wounds; they were too busy with saving his life. The response is to dismiss all of this as mere hearsay.
In order to answer this confusion an autopsy was performed. X-rays and photos taken. They show with no doubt that the wound was not in the back of the head but the top and right side of the head. Just as Zapruder said and just as his film shows. Problem solved.
But if the response is this was all altered and then covered up for decades; that Democrats and Republicans, who hate each other and can't agree on what to have for lunch, all got together to carry this cover up out all of these years then never mind. Because you are living in a fantasy world.
Just as Zapruder said and just as his film shows. Problem solved.
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JohnM