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Offline David Monaghan

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Warren H. Burroughs
« on: March 18, 2020, 11:22:09 PM »
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Stated LHO entered the theatre between 1.00pm -1.07pm, Dale Myers agreed Tippit was shot around 1.06pm, quite interesting? Could Oswald have shot Tippit , made it to the theatre in less than a minute and washed down some popcorn at 1.15pm?  ::)

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2020, 12:42:51 AM »
Stated LHO entered the theatre between 1.00pm -1.07pm, Dale Myers agreed Tippit was shot around 1.06pm, quite interesting? Could Oswald have shot Tippit , made it to the theatre in less than a minute and washed down some popcorn at 1.15pm?  ::)

Where did you get those times of day???

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2020, 04:24:07 PM »
From Myer's "With Malice": "Considering the timing of the sounds heard in the Dallas police recordings, and the corroborating accounts of three witnesses, the murder of Tippit probably occurred about 90 seconds prior to Benavides' bungled attempts to notify the dispatcher. Therefore, there is good reason to believe that J.D. Tippitt was shot at approximately 1:14:30 p.m."

From William Burrough's WC testimony:
Mr. BALL. And you later saw a struggle in the theatre between a man and some officers, didn't you?
Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you see that man come in the theatre?
Mr. BURROUGHS. No, sir; I didn't.

And:
Mr. BALL. Did anybody come in there that day? Up to the time of the struggle between the man and the police who didn't have a ticket?
Mr. BURROUGHS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Later on the police came in your place?
Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. They asked you if you had seen a man come in there without a ticket?
Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What did you tell him?
Mr. BURROUGHS. I said, "I haven't seen him myself. He might have, but I didn't see him when he came in. He must have sneaked in and run on upstairs before I saw him."

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/burroughs.htm
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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2020, 05:45:12 PM »
From Myer's "With Malice": "Considering the timing of the sounds heard in the Dallas police recordings, and the corroborating accounts of three witnesses, the murder of Tippit probably occurred about 90 seconds prior to Benavides' bungled attempts to notify the dispatcher. Therefore, there is good reason to believe that J.D. Tippitt was shot at approximately 1:14:30 p.m."

Not sure where he got the 90 seconds.  Or why he assumes the police dispatcher timechecks are accurate.

Offline Tom Scully

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2020, 06:05:26 PM »
Not sure where he got the 90 seconds.  Or why he assumes the police dispatcher timechecks are accurate.

John, you're making an argument challenging the reliability,,, exactness of the police time check in the course of routinely coordinating city wide police activity resulting in an official
record to people who rigidly embrace foundational assumption of information provided by a cabdriver whose gravestone displays a different date of birth than his 1942 draft card
and also still has an unverified claim of a Navy Cross award earned in combat over Iwo Jima and whose son and namesake claimed in that son's obit to be the son of a different couple, and the description
of exact time by Earline Roberts, despite Roberts demonstrably having no reliable sense of when police arrived and whose employer testified to the WC that Ms. Roberts was a habitual teller of tall tales to the degree it noticeably impaired her job performance.


John, you are debating people who only demand the tees be crossed the eyes dotted when they anticipate evidence could be exculpatory to Oswald.


Absent exhumation and successful collection of testable DNA samples, how would a judge in any fact finding proceeding find that the occupant of this grave, born in 1905, was William Wayne Whaley as represented in history?

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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13730776/william-wayne-whaley
William Wayne Whaley
Birth: 19 Jun 1905
Texas, USA
Death
18 Dec 1965 (aged 60)
Dallas, Dallas County, Texas, USA

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13730776/william-wayne-whaley/photo

Hugh Aynesworth reporting on 28 November, 1963 about Whaley and his Navy Cross combat award.:


There is no available record, so far, of Whaley's professed award of the Navy Cross.



Whaley was born in June, 1908 as recently as in the information displayed on his son William W Whaley, Jr's 1931 birth certificate, but since then he was born in 1905 although his parents married in 1907 according to Hopkins County, TX records and the same familoy bible that describes Whaley's birth as in 1908.
UPDATED: Whaley's 1942 Selective Service document indicates he may have written his birth date as June 19, 1908,
three years later than the date on his death certificate and gravestone.

His son and namesake William's 1997 obit lists William Jr's aunt Alice Patterson as his mother and mentions no father.
Whaley Sr's obit does not mention his namesake son, William, Jr.

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Albuquerque Journal from Albuquerque, New Mexico on October 30 ...
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/157414971/

Oct 30, 1984 - SEALES Mr. Alvin S. Seales, age 73 and a resident here 21 years, died Monday in a local hospital following an illness. He is survived by his wife, Alice; a son William W. Whaley and wife Dorothy; granddaughter Jamy Whaley; grandson, William W. Whaley Jr. and wife Nancy, all of Albuquerque; a brother ..

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June 24, 1997........
WHALEY William Wayne Whaley, 65, passed away unexpectedly on June 18, 1997 in Michigan while on vacation. Husband of 43 years to Dorothy; father and father-in-law of Jamy and Gregg Peevy and Bill Jr. and Dee Whaley, all of Albuquerque; son of Alice (Pat) Scales of Albuquerque. Mr. Whaley retired from Us Alamos National Ubs in 1993 after 17 years. A memorial service will be held Wednesday, 3:00 p.m. at French Mortuary, Umas Blvd. Chapel, 10500 Umas NE. Cremation has taken place. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to Noonday Ministry, P.O. Box 8769, Albuquerque, NM 87198 or New Mexico Boys and Girls Ranch, 6209 Hendrix NE, Albuquerque, NM 87110. French Mortuary, 10500 Umas NE. Church with Rev. Archie Parker officiating. Interment to follow at Santa Fe National Cemetery with Wilson Cox Jr., David Cox, David O'Dell Jr., Timoth O'Dell, Patrick O'Dell and Jon Palmer serving as pallbearers......

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ABQJournal Online - Albuquerque Journal Obituaries
obits.abqjournal.com/obits/show/124434
Jan 30, 1999 - Seales -- Alice (Pat) Seales, passed away Wednesday morning, January 27, 1999, at Sunrise Mission Manor Care and Rehabilitation. She was 91 years old. She was preceded in death by her husband, Alvin S. Seales; and her son, William Whaley. She is survived by her daughter-in-law, Dorothy Whaley; ...

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