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Offline Michael Carney

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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #304 on: August 28, 2020, 09:50:34 PM »
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"This is one of many "non-magic" "simplified" counters to the Single-Bullet Theory. LOL."

What so you mean by "simplified counter" to the single-bullet theory?
1. You have many witnesses claiming a bullet was fired from the grassy knoll. Most likely the throat shot.
2. You have a shooter on the sixth floor TSBD.
3. Evidence in JFK's skull that he was hit with a frangible round.
4. Evidence that Hickey fired the fatal shot accidentally.

We don't need a single bullet theory, the only reason it exists is because they wanted to blame it all on Oswald. That's the only way they could pin it all on one person, case closed.

It just dawned that JFK got hit at least 4 times; fragments to the back of the head from the ricochet, once in the back, once in the throat, and once more in the head.

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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
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Offline Michael Carney

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« Reply #305 on: August 29, 2020, 01:29:07 AM »
“Sam Holland originally said the "puff of smoke I saw definitely came from behind the arcade through the trees." In his testimony, Holland said he ran there first: "Went up to behind the arcade as far as you could go."

The "puff of smoke" could be anything. Six months after the events, Holland still wasn't sure: "There was a shot, a report, I don’t know whether it was a shot." By time he met Mark Lane and Josiah Thompson, he was re-enacting a gunman's position behind the fence line.”
Sam Holland is one out what, twenty witnesses, that said the shot came from the grassy knoll, twenty to one aren’t good odds.

“The heads of the two agents in the back seat don't go higher than the heads of the agents on the running boards. Neither agent in the back seat is elevated enough to fire a shot over the Queen Mary windshield. Pat Speer flipped the line drawing of the Hickey shot from the "Mortal Error" book and superimposed it over a Bronson film frame.”

Witnesses to Hickey holding and possibly firing a “rifle”:
•   Dallas Mayor, Earl Cabel. see’s one Secret Service agent standup with a sub-machine gun.
•   Senator Yarbrough also saw a rifle.
•   Agent Winston rides in the front of JFK in the lead car. He noticed Agent Hickey standing up in the follow up car, “I first thought that he had fired it”.
•   Sam Holland, a witness, is standing on top of the underpass as the motorcade is going under him. “After the first shot, the Secret Service agent raised up with a machine gun and dropped back down into the seat. WC Vol XIX, ex 5323, pg 480
•   Roy Kellerman testified there was an AR15 in the motorcade.
•   Hugh Betner saw one Secret Service agent pull out a gun, he was standing watching the motorcade. vol XXIV, ex 2003, pg 200
•   A police officer on the over pass as the motorcade passing under saw an agent swinging around the gun.
•   Margaret Chisolm WC vol XIX, ex 5323, pg 472 saw agents stand up and sit back down.
•   Jean Hill – Saw JFK grab his chest and fall forward and she thinks she saw men in plain clothes shooting back. WC Vol XXIV, Ex 2003, pg 212
•   Ralph Yarborough saw a SS Agent pull out a rifle. WC Vol VII, pg 439

“The Warren Report offers their actual rationale.”

We know what the purpose of the Warren Report was, hide the fact that it was a conspiracy.


"So they wanted it to be known an assassination team took out Kennedy, albeit Keystone-Cops-esque? Or... if the conspirators wanted a lone-assassin subterfuge, they picked a lousy way of accomplishing it."

No, the only shot that missed was the first one, all the others hit a target. I believe they did want it to look like a lone gunman but they had the shooter on the grassy knoll as insurance, he was not getting out of there alive.

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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #306 on: September 15, 2020, 11:57:52 AM »


Shouldn't this kind of a shot have knocked Kennedys head forward not back and to the left?

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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #307 on: September 15, 2020, 01:48:16 PM »
Gerry,
If you watch all the simulated "melon" shooting you see in most instances that the melon explodes out the front, the the back part of the melon goes backwards.
Imagine a bullet that explodes when striking something. It is moving so fast, 3,300 ft/sec, it enters the head, travels some distance and then explodes. Let's say it travels 6 inches and explodes, remember, 3,300 ft/sec, it doesn't take much for it to travel the 6 inches. Now where is the bullet when it explodes? It's just below JFK's front right forehead and it explodes. It blows in all directions; blowing that area of JFK's skull out and away and also blows backwards thus pushing JFK's head back and to the left.

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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #308 on: September 16, 2020, 12:15:16 AM »
Gerry,
If you watch all the simulated "melon" shooting you see in most instances that the melon explodes out the front, the the back part of the melon goes backwards.
Imagine a bullet that explodes when striking something. It is moving so fast, 3,300 ft/sec, it enters the head, travels some distance and then explodes. Let's say it travels 6 inches and explodes, remember, 3,300 ft/sec, it doesn't take much for it to travel the 6 inches. Now where is the bullet when it explodes? It's just below JFK's front right forehead and it explodes. It blows in all directions; blowing that area of JFK's skull out and away and also blows backwards thus pushing JFK's head back and to the left.

The bones broke at the front of the head. Wouldn't the breaking of these bones pull the head forward?

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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #308 on: September 16, 2020, 12:15:16 AM »


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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #309 on: September 16, 2020, 03:55:21 PM »
"The bones broke at the front of the head. Wouldn't the breaking of these bones pull the head forward?"

No, because the blast is forward coming out of his forehead, like a rocket taking off. Blast goes one way the rocket goes in the opposite direction. Another example: It’s kind of like a rifle recoiling; you have this explosion when the bullet is fired, it goes forward and you get the kick backwards.
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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #310 on: September 17, 2020, 09:11:18 PM »
"The bones broke at the front of the head. Wouldn't the breaking of these bones pull the head forward?"

No, because the blast is forward coming out of his forehead, like a rocket taking off. Blast goes one way the rocket goes in the opposite direction. Another example: It’s kind of like a rifle recoiling; you have this explosion when the bullet is fired, it goes forward and you get the kick backwards.

This sounds like the jet effect. Are you saying the spray coming out the front of the head caused Kennedy to be thrown backwards. Just like the recoil of a rifle?

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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #311 on: September 17, 2020, 11:42:08 PM »
"This sounds like the jet effect. Are you saying the spray coming out the front of the head caused Kennedy to be thrown backwards. Just like the recoil of a rifle?"

The bullet is moving so fast, 3,300 fps, the destruction in the brain is so great that the head explodes. And if the "explosion" opening is located in the right frontal lobe, then the head will be forced away from the explosion, thus back and to the left.

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Re: JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories
« Reply #311 on: September 17, 2020, 11:42:08 PM »