Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care

[Joe Elliott]

Most of the replies are missing the point that JFK assassination authors should refrain from expressing their views on issues that do not directly relate to the JFK assassination, especially if those issues are controversial political or historical issues. That's the point.

For example, I have reluctantly and sadly concluded that the January 6 committee has presented solid evidence that Trump purposely delayed calling on the rioters to stand down. This shameful conduct makes him an accessory to the riot, and the GOP should repudiate him and expel him from the party for it. But, I'm never going to inject my view on this matter into one of my articles on the JFK assassination, even though I know that the majority of my readers would agree with it.

My guess is that by 2024, you will find reasons to support Trump's run for President. We will see if I am right on this.

[Jon Banks]

The JFK assassination is one of the few issues where partisanship isn't a factor

2017 - The One Thing All Americans Agree On: JFK Conspiracy

A new survey from FiveThirtyEight released this week finds that’s right about where the public is today: 61% believe others were involved in JFK’s assassination, while 33% believe one man acted alone.

But the most interesting finding in the FiveThirtyEight poll is the breadth of the nation’s JFK conspiracy beliefs. More than 50 percent of most every demographic group believes “others were involved” in the assassination: Men and women, whites, blacks and Hispanics, registered voters and non-registered, all age groups.

And in an era when the political divides appear in everything from media consumption to shopping habits, the JFK assassination is one area where supporters of President Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton agree: 61 percent of Trump voters and 59 percent of Clinton voters believe “others were involved.”

The one demographic group that believes Oswald acted alone, according to the FiveThirtyEight poll, is college educated white people – and the numbers are very close with 48 percent saying one man killed JFK and 46 percent saying others were involved...

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jfk-assassination-files/one-thing-all-americans-agree-jfk-conspiracy-n815371

[Jon Banks]

Agreed. The authoritarian regime they live under is making good choices. They have better leadership than they had back in the 1950’s and 1960’s. And those bad leaders back then, while supported by the United States, were dictators.

However, all governments, authoritarian or democratic, eventually go bad. The difference is that with democratic countries, the people eventually wise up and elect different people. Eventually, the situation generally gets sorted out. With authoritarian governments, the dictator, or the ones in charge, might decide they want to remain in power. And the people can’t put things right without a revolution. Which can be easier said than done.

Vietnam is doing ok now. But some day, it is going to go south on them. It always does. Without democracy, they are doomed.

Authoritarianism doesn’t always mean rule by a king or dictator. In Vietnam and China it’s one Party rule. Within the Communist party, there are various factions.

People in Democracies don’t always elect competent leaders.

In neither authoritarianism or democracies is there a guarantee that leaders will be chosen based on merit and competence.

While democracy generally is morally superior to authoritarianism, there’s no guarantee that leaders in democratic systems will be ethical or competent.

In the US, there’s no greater example of that than the election of Donald Trump.

[Walt Cakebread]

The JFK assassination is one of the few issues where partisanship isn't a factor

2017 - The One Thing All Americans Agree On: JFK Conspiracy

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jfk-assassination-files/one-thing-all-americans-agree-jfk-conspiracy-n815371

2017 - The One Thing All Americans Agree On: JFK Conspiracy

But the official US govt proclamation says that Lee Oswald was a nut who murdered President Kennedy for no reason ........ So if "all Americans" ( or even a majority) agree that the murder was the result of a conspiracy, then doesn't that reveal a general mistrust of the government ?   Isn't our system based upon a mutual trust?

My personal belief is that we should adhere to our motto.... In God We Trust....  It's been my observation that the scoundrels and con men are drawn toward Washington DC ....A place where they can thrive and fatten their bank accounts with tax payers dollars.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Another sad example of ultra-liberal politics in good pro-conspiracy presentations is the four-hour version of Oliver Stone's new JFK documentary JFK: Destiny Betrayed. JFK Revisited is the two-hour version. The long version contains a large dose of ultra-liberal politics. Has it ever occurred to conspiracy theorists that a person does not have to be an ultra-liberal to regret JFK's death, to admire the good things he did, and to believe he was killed by a conspiracy?

Just because a person recognizes the positive aspects of JFK's presidency and believes he was killed by a conspiracy does not mean that person must believe the Vietnam War was evil, that Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning are heroes, that killing terrorists with drones is wrong, that the PATRIOT Act severely violates the Constitution, etc., etc.

[Jerry Freeman]

Here's a fellow who's to the extreme right of most American conservatives. Yet he's an "Independent." Next he'll be telling us he's a "Skeptic" rather than a JFK conspiracy theorist.

You're a skeptic.
You are skeptical of any such JFK conspiracy..correct?

The LNers don't proclaim the WR as if it's Gospel.

                                          Yeah, right... tell us another one 
 

[Jon Banks]

Another sad example of ultra-liberal politics in good pro-conspiracy presentations is the four-hour version of Oliver Stone's new JFK documentary JFK: Destiny Betrayed. JFK Revisited is the two-hour version. The long version contains a large dose of ultra-liberal politics. Has it ever occurred to conspiracy theorists that a person does not have to be an ultra-liberal to regret JFK's death, to admire the good things he did, and to believe he was killed by a conspiracy?

Just because a person recognizes the positive aspects of JFK's presidency and believes he was killed by a conspiracy does not mean that person must believe the Vietnam War was evil, that Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning are heroes, that killing terrorists with drones is wrong, that the PATRIOT Act severely violates the Constitution, etc., etc.

Not sure how you got that from watching the Destiny Betrayed version.

Oliver Stone does inject his politics into most of his work but I don’t think it was over the top like a Michael Moore documentary in his recent JFK docs…

[Jon Banks]

I believe Griffith was talking there about Oliver Stone in general (maybe the "Untold History" project), and not the "JFK Revisited" propaganda film.

People reading that might think you're referring to Michael Moore's documentaries about JFK. There are no such docs and you're really referring to Stone's JFK docs. One can see how perception can sometimes alter the meaning. Many JFK witnesses have been the victims of false interpretation (on both sides of the debate).

To clarify, I meant the way Moore's documentaries are over the top in terms of his Democrat partisan politics.

While Stone clearly has a Liberal point of view, I don't think his work is as "in your face" as Moore's documentaries.