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Offline James Hackerott

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Re: WFFA’s Film of the Motorcade Run to Parkland Hospital Stabilized
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2023, 02:38:44 AM »
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Wow James, excellent work as usual!  I think you have nailed it. It does appear that perhaps some traffic not associated with the motorcade had to pull over to the side and let the escort motorcycles (and I imagine the motorcade followed) go by. It might be true that the intersection wasn’t secured. Because after all, the original planned route didn’t include going to Parkland. Very exciting to see this with better clarity. Thanks!
Thanks Charles. When I finally found your bright spot moving west on Hines (I think), but east of the intersection, if I recall it seems to come to a stop also. I'll revisit that in a few days with the new animation.

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Re: WFFA’s Film of the Motorcade Run to Parkland Hospital Stabilized
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Re: WFFA’s Film of the Motorcade Run to Parkland Hospital Stabilized
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2023, 11:04:08 AM »
Thanks Charles. When I finally found your bright spot moving west on Hines (I think), but east of the intersection, if I recall it seems to come to a stop also. I'll revisit that in a few days with the new animation.


In the earlier clips, I think that I felt that I could see a car moving and stopping and also believed that I saw a motorcycle helmet moving in that same area. I had assumed (in my mind) that the moving car would have been the JFK limo at the front of the motorcade along with the motorcycles. The car appeared much darker to me in the earlier clips. And I wasn’t sure that it was a car because I couldn’t understand why the limo would be stopping. It just didn’t occur to me that it could have been traffic unassociated with the motorcade that had to pull over and stop. But, now that you brought that idea up, it makes very good sense to me. And the better clarity confirms it (to me at least). Well done and good thinking.   Thumb1:

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Re: WFFA’s Film of the Motorcade Run to Parkland Hospital Stabilized
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2023, 02:10:52 AM »

It could just be my imagination based on what I would expect to see. But, I do see some movement going to the left in the shortened segment. It appears to me to perhaps just be a white police officer helmet that is ahead of the JFK limo. I see things better on my iPad screen. I think it is an OLED type screen. Look in the area where I drew a yellow circle. You have to be looking between the vehicles that are going to the right because they are between the camera and the movement that I see. Also, I drew the outline (in blue) of what looks to me to possibly be the shape of Parkland Hospital in the distance. If that is actually Parkland, that would be the direction of travel of the vehicles after they cleared the RR tracks and intersection at Hines.





Charles, I’m mostly replying belatedly to your reply #11 in regard to motion you detected within the area of your yellow circle. I’ve had a difficult time with this area but think now I can see a light colored “blur” appear near that area around frame 094. Frame numbers refer to actual film frames and not the animation frames, which were reduced by about a third due to blur. This object (Green arrow) appears for a few frames moving westward but is soon obscured until it reappears near the end of the film at frame 199 (Blue arrow).  The green region may be where it could look like a white helmet in motion, but much brighter than any other helmet in the film. At this time there is a motorcycle traveling maybe 10-20 feet of so ahead of the blur. It is the #4 motorcycle in my previous post above. This blur, at the Blue arrow position, seems consistent with a light colored sedan. I ponder if this may be the lead car (Curry’s). If it is Curry’s 63 Ford Galaxie 500 there is a lot of chrome surrounding the windshield that would be reflective. I believe whatever vehicle it is it is in lockstep with the four cycles ahead of it.
See the two frame toggle animation showing these arrows.



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Re: WFFA’s Film of the Motorcade Run to Parkland Hospital Stabilized
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2023, 02:10:52 AM »


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Re: WFFA’s Film of the Motorcade Run to Parkland Hospital Stabilized
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2023, 01:22:16 PM »
Charles, I’m mostly replying belatedly to your reply #11 in regard to motion you detected within the area of your yellow circle. I’ve had a difficult time with this area but think now I can see a light colored “blur” appear near that area around frame 094. Frame numbers refer to actual film frames and not the animation frames, which were reduced by about a third due to blur. This object (Green arrow) appears for a few frames moving westward but is soon obscured until it reappears near the end of the film at frame 199 (Blue arrow).  The green region may be where it could look like a white helmet in motion, but much brighter than any other helmet in the film. At this time there is a motorcycle traveling maybe 10-20 feet of so ahead of the blur. It is the #4 motorcycle in my previous post above. This blur, at the Blue arrow position, seems consistent with a light colored sedan. I ponder if this may be the lead car (Curry’s). If it is Curry’s 63 Ford Galaxie 500 there is a lot of chrome surrounding the windshield that would be reflective. I believe whatever vehicle it is it is in lockstep with the four cycles ahead of it.
See the two frame toggle animation showing these arrows.



Thanks James, you continue to amaze me with your work. I will study this closer and let you know if I see anything of additional interest. That’s a good idea about the lead car (Curry’s).

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Re: WFFA’s Film of the Motorcade Run to Parkland Hospital Stabilized
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2023, 01:22:16 PM »