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Online Tom Mahon

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I think our own media and government have done more to promote conspiracy theories than the Russians with misinformation and outright lies.  There is understandable distrust of the "official" story in the current timeframe.  With that said, the JFK assassination is ancient history.  Most young people likely don't even know it happened.  JFK conspiracies are lumped into the same category as Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster.  They are fun to entertain but have no basis in fact.

Young folks don't need to know about the JFK assassination to feel the effects from the KGB* disinformation operations that grew around the anomaly-replete tragedy and caused the massive decline in trust in our government which ultimately led to "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin's being able to install the compromised-since-at-least-1987 Traitorous Orange Turd as our "president."

*Today's SVR and FSB
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Online Richard Smith

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Young folks don't need to know about the JFK assassination to feel the effects from the KGB* disinformation operations that grew around the anomaly-replete tragedy and caused the massive decline in trust in our government which ultimately led to "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin's being able to install the compromised-since-at-least-1987 Traitorous Orange Turd as our "president."

*Today's SVR and FSB

That sounds like a conspiracy theory.  You sound unhinged.

Online Tom Mahon

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That sounds like a conspiracy theory. You sound unhinged.


You want a true conspiracy?

I'll tell you about a true conspiracy that's 65 years old now and just keeps on "giving."

At the 27 January - 5 February XXI Extraordinary Party Congress, the Kremlin, having realized that the USSR and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, decided to try to get us to tear ourselves apart by waging Sun Tzu-based disinformation, "active measures," and "Inside Man" / "Outside Man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations (all of which Angleton and Golitsyn critics derisively call "The Monster Plot")  against us and our NATO allies. To carry out these ops, the KGB set up Department D in the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and General Oleg Gribanov, not to be outdone, set up Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB). As soon as GRU Colonel Oleg Penkovsky had been "trapped like a bear in its den" in Moscow in such a way that wouldn't reveal who had betrayed him, Gribanov dispatched GRU Colonel Dmitry Polyakov and KGB Major Aleksei Kulak to the FBI's NYC field office to "volunteer" to spy for it. Triple-agent Polyakov did spy for Gribanov for one year (1962) at the U.N. and then "flipped" to the CIA when he was posted to Moscow, Rangoon, and New Delhi, but Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA) duped the Bureau for fifteen years. Gribanov sent Yuri Nosenko to the CIA in Geneva in June 1962 to discredit what recent true defector Anatoliy Golitsyn was telling James Angleton about possible KGB penetrations of the CIA, the FBI, and the intelligence services of our NATO allies. In late January 1964, Nosenko recontacted the CIA in Geneva and said that he now wanted to leave his beloved wife and two daughters behind in Moscow to fend for themselves and physically defect to the U.S. In 2013, a former CIA officer by the name of W. Alan Messer wrote an article titled "In Pursuit of the Squared Circle: The Nosenko Theories Revisited" (look it up) in which he concluded that Nosenko was a fake defector-in-place in 1962, and a rogue-but-true defector in 1964 whom the KGB had no choice but to continue to support his "bona fides" in the U.S. because he was telling the CIA and the FBI what it desperately wanted them to hear (and why it had sent him back to Geneva in February 1964): that the KGB had absolutely nothing to do with Lee Harvey Oswald during the two-and-one-half years he lived two blocks from a KGB school in Minsk.

In 1965, Gribanov sent KGB officer Igor Kochnov to the FBI, and a year later, without Hoover's or Kochnov's telling the CIA about Kochnov's involvement with the Bureau, sent him to the CIA to "confirm" the bona fides of Nosenko, to build up the status of probable KGB "mole" Bruce Solie (Angleton's confidant, mentor, and mole-hunting boss) in the Office of Security, and to arrange for the kidnapping of CIA's spy Nicholas Shadrin in Vienna in 1975.

Then, of course, there was Aldrich Ames and the mole-hiding "homesick" false defector, Vitaly Yurchenko, but that's enough for now.

Just curious: Are you a Trump supporter by any chance?
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