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Online Royell Storing

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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Reply #424 on: July 15, 2024, 05:46:23 PM »
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  What you ALL Fail to grasp is that when JFK leaned back into that corner/nook that is created where the backseat backrest meets the passenger side of the car, JFK's head is physically OUTSIDE of the Limo. This is obvious when JFK boards the Limo at Love Field and he then sits/leans back into that nook. In this seated position, there is No Way a bullet exiting JFK's throat above the adam's apple would strike the in-board seated Gov Connally. Also, with his head physically outside of the Limo, a bullet Entering his throat would NOT have to be fired through the windshield.
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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Reply #424 on: July 15, 2024, 05:46:23 PM »


Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #425 on: July 15, 2024, 08:45:58 PM »
Ok.  My measurement was incorrect. The angle that I get for your trajectory line, correctly measured, is 7.5 degrees to the car direction:



That's for the trajectory you placed on my limo plat.



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You still have a bit of a problem putting JFK in the same position at z222 that he was in Altgens #5, however. He is not leaning against the side of the car in z222-225:


How does that show how close the President's rib cage was to the car interior? The Croft Photo shows Kennedy right up against the car interior.

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You have his forehead almost above the inside edge of the back seat compartment.

I guess you're referring to the "inside edge of the back seat compartment" in the HSCA Limo Plat, which I consider to be erroneously drawn.

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That may have been his position in Altgens #5 but it does not appear to be his position at z222. 
The difference appears to be where we place the rifle.  If your placement is correct, the angle is 8.3 degrees:


Sorry, I much prefer the line-of-travel in the HSCA Map. Your map's curvature of Elm Street is quite different. You might want to move the limo a little closer to the road stripe. Isn't .3° just a nitpick?

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My rejection of the SBT is based on all the evidence but primarily the evidence of the 1...........2......3 shot pattern,

About the worst "evidence" you could have. People's opinions based on a reconstruct in their mind, sometimes months afterwards. Kind of self-serving, because having a short span before the head shot means they were powerless to act or shout out.

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the evidence that JFK reacted to the first shot and the evidence that JBC was struck in the back by the second shot, not the first shot. The trajectory issues, condition of CE399, the concussion effect of the second shot and fragment striking Tague on the second shot, the hair flip on the second shot, Nellie's evidence, the absence of evidence of a missed shot etc. provide further support for the 3 shot, 3 hit shot sequence.

Your Z193 trajectory and Don Knotts Lab Z225 trajectory don't work, not on the level of the SBT.
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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Reply #426 on: July 15, 2024, 08:56:19 PM »

  Try to stay on topic. The multitude of Facts disproving the SBT have nothing to do with Trump. 

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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Reply #427 on: July 15, 2024, 10:12:38 PM »
Since the MC rifle found on the 6th floor TSBD had a scope mount that needed shims to change the mount angle enough that the scope reticle could be adjusted in elevation  properly, then that suggests 2 possibilities:

A. The shooter was unaware the scope was out of alignment and he fired the 1st shot using the scope only to then realize how far off it was and then he switched to using the iron sights.

B. The shooter WAS aware the scope was out of alignment before he began shooting therefore  most probable he fired 1st shot using the iron sights as well as 2nd and 3rd shots.

If A. Then the idea of a Z193 shot fired thru foliage of a tree is not that implausible if the shooter was using the more restricted sight picture of  the scope when  he had started tracking the target a few seconds prior to firing the shot at Z193.

If B however, it’s implausible the shooter would be  unaware of how the much foliage of the tree would interfere with his sight picture given the much larger area background in his LOS while he used iron sights.

If A however, Its less probable the shooter was Oswald as surely he would be aware of this misalignment problem, thus would use irons sights for shot the 1st shot,  thus he would be aware of the tree foliage in relation to his iron sight picture and therefore he would have NOT likely fired a 1st shot at Z193 thru ANY % of tree foliage.

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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Reply #427 on: July 15, 2024, 10:12:38 PM »